Woody on Jerry: "He made me who I am as a runner right now, and he knows that."

If this was a video chat I would watch it, but podcasts are like listening to the radio back in the dark ages of technology, meaning boring as heck.

If you did video chats instead of podcasts they'd likely get 100% more "viewers."

I have a full video with Woody but we really like the podcast form. And you can listen on runs, in the car, etc. We generally don't post the full videos if they are long. A lot of the guest then can be more focused on what they're saying than how they look.

I'd say most of our Supporters Club members pay us so they can get more podcasts from us.

Here is a clip from Woody talking about Bowerman.

One of my favorite interviews you guys have done. Great questions and I feel like I got to know Woody. I liked his willingness to talk about all kinds of different things and he talked about his relationship with Bowerman with a large amount of nuance.

Jerry made Woody who he was meaning: Jerry supplied Woody with drugs. Just like he supplied Shelby with drugs.

Likely true but the training is probably more important than the PEDs. Although they needed both to make the aberrant improvements they made.

We (normal runners) listen to podcasts while doing our easy runs. We don't just sit at our desks with our hands folded in our laps listening to podcasts.

I am not sure this is true. Do “normal runners” listen to podcasts on their easy runs? I would imagine many do but I would be surprised if it is more than like 20%.

Can someone explain in brief why he felt the need to leave? It sounds like he felt straitjacketed at BTC, but what exactly did he want to do on his own that he felt couldn’t be done there?

When he discussed Fisher it was a little confusing.

1) he sounded annoyed that they were the golden boys

2) he was pretty clear that he gave Fisher the lane in the 5k

3) it’s sounds like a little insecurity on Woody’s side.
It sounds like they are “friends”, but what the heck does “mate” actually mean.

Has anyone asked Woody whether they purposely put him in the slow heat at BU last year so he wouldn't challenge Fisher?

What? So Jerry was fine putting in a guy 5 months removed from a Silver medal at the Olympics but was worried about Kincaid? Use your head.

Jerry is just a control freak and didn’t think Kincaid was ready for the pace in Heat 1. Was that the right decision? Debatable. But he wasn’t running 12:53 last year

I run by myself, and would say I listen to podcasts on 80% of my runs. More interesting than music.

This is an implicit admission that you find running solo to be boring. I get it…

Do you have any evidence to support this allegation?

Coffee Club does both and I find I miss what they are saying on video cause I am so fixated on Gus, their dog, and when he's not in full frame I kind of zone out. The podcast form is way more interesting because it makes whatever boring thing you are doing tolerable. And there's something about it being fed into your ear weekly. I feel like I know everyone, Woody, now too. It's the proper format for him to speak about things like his dad, having to make adjustments to finish workouts with Mo and Fisher, which probably wasn't the best thing for him. Really good podcast episode! And I always appreciate the timestamps.

To your point - not a big deal to lose to the silver medalist...

I listen to podcasts on majority of easy runs

It'll be fun to see the two guys duking it out for the outdoor American record later this year in a fast Euro race, if Jerry lets Fisher run on the circuit.

Woody ain’t got no medal 🙄