Pathetic.
Only one British man will go to World Cross Country
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UK Distance running has fallen by the wayside as they've been obsessed with mid-distance talent like Hodgkinson, Wightman, and Burgin, omitting funding for anyone above 1500m. We may never see the likes of Mo Farah again, but they need to be supporting U23, U20 distance more as the Nordic countries have great talent at the moment.
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British moment. So funny. The funniest part of the article is a quote from the performance manager.
“We are pleased to be taking this team to the World Athletics Cross Country Championships later this month. The event is a prestigious one in the athletics calendar, so we are delighted to have strong representation in every discipline in Australia.Bruh you're taking ONE athlete in open mens. ONE dude who's not even gonna crack the top 50.
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dstrainer wrote:
UK Distance running has fallen by the wayside as they've been obsessed with mid-distance talent like Hodgkinson, Wightman, and Burgin, omitting funding for anyone above 1500m. We may never see the likes of Mo Farah again, but they need to be supporting U23, U20 distance more as the Nordic countries have great talent at the moment.
Marc Scott, Sam Atkin, Emile Cairess, Eilish McColgan, Charles Hicks, Jess Judd, Jess Piasecki, Lizzie Bird. Maybe they aren't all Lottery funded (several obvs on USA deals) and as you suggest, they are not going to be piling up global Golds like farah, or indeed Wightman, but it's not a bad bunch.
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"funding" you mean drugs?
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If a country throws around radioactive cylinders, just imagine what else they're reckless about.
I prioritize my health.
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Do you even have a team in Roads or Marathon?
If you spent less time at spitting at others countries you will grow better.
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TeteDLO wrote:
dstrainer wrote:
UK Distance running has fallen by the wayside as they've been obsessed with mid-distance talent like Hodgkinson, Wightman, and Burgin, omitting funding for anyone above 1500m. We may never see the likes of Mo Farah again, but they need to be supporting U23, U20 distance more as the Nordic countries have great talent at the moment.
Marc Scott, Sam Atkin, Emile Cairess, Eilish McColgan, Charles Hicks, Jess Judd, Jess Piasecki, Lizzie Bird. Maybe they aren't all Lottery funded (several obvs on USA deals) and as you suggest, they are not going to be piling up global Golds like farah, or indeed Wightman, but it's not a bad bunch.
The UK is missing top class 5/10 talent. I still think Eilish could get a global medal on a good day, but it's no more than a puncher's chance. I'm still a little surprised that Farah's success, and the popularity of XC at junior level, hasn't produced a couple more decent 5/10 athletes. If we asked Rojo, he'd just say it's genetics. There's something about British genes that makes them more likely to be good at mid-d events. That's how this works, right?
As for the World XC team: all the best guys have other plans. Scott and Cairess are running marathons, Atkin will be dropping out of 10000m races, and Hicks will be preparing for the NCAA season. That still leaves people like Ben Connor and Patrick Dever, not sure why they aren't going.
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dstrainer wrote:
UK Distance running has fallen by the wayside as they've been obsessed with mid-distance talent like Hodgkinson, Wightman, and Burgin, omitting funding for anyone above 1500m. We may never see the likes of Mo Farah again, but they need to be supporting U23, U20 distance more as the Nordic countries have great talent at the moment.
Farah doped to compete with the doping EA's and age cheats dominating this 'xc' event.
Are there any hills or mud on the course or is it just a grass track race. Snell ran 3:54 on a track 50 years ago
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ukathleticscoach wrote:
dstrainer wrote:
UK Distance running has fallen by the wayside as they've been obsessed with mid-distance talent like Hodgkinson, Wightman, and Burgin, omitting funding for anyone above 1500m. We may never see the likes of Mo Farah again, but they need to be supporting U23, U20 distance more as the Nordic countries have great talent at the moment.
Farah doped to compete with the doping EA's and age cheats dominating this 'xc' event.
Are there any hills or mud on the course or is it just a grass track race. Snell ran 3:54 on a track 50 years ago
grass track.
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Union Jacky wrote:
Pathetic.
They used to win this thing or at least be competitive. This is sad.
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High hopes wrote:
As for the World XC team: all the best guys have other plans. Scott and Cairess are running marathons, Atkin will be dropping out of 10000m races, and Hicks will be preparing for the NCAA season. That still leaves people like Ben Connor and Patrick Dever, not sure why they aren't going.
Hicks's Stanford teammate Ky Robinson (Australia) is running and I presume he is also preparing for Track season.
Does this suggest that this will be Hicks's last Stanford track season? He is listed as a Senior, but I believe he has eligibility left.
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It's in Bathurst so there won't be mud.
It will be on dry dirt/grass I would imagine.
As far as I can tell they only send people they think have a chance of a medal, whether that be individual or team. Hence them sending the team for the mixed relay. But for me, the senior men and women's teams are the most important so I find it sad they are only sending one man. I wonder what the cost per athlete is? The main cost may be the flights and then there is accommodation. I can't see food and drink adding up to much and the team doctor and physiotherapist are already there. I'd love to see a costing per athlete to see what it is.
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ukathleticscoach wrote:
dstrainer wrote:
UK Distance running has fallen by the wayside as they've been obsessed with mid-distance talent like Hodgkinson, Wightman, and Burgin, omitting funding for anyone above 1500m. We may never see the likes of Mo Farah again, but they need to be supporting U23, U20 distance more as the Nordic countries have great talent at the moment.
Farah doped to compete with the doping EA's and age cheats dominating this 'xc' event.
Are there any hills or mud on the course or is it just a grass track race. Snell ran 3:54 on a track 50 years ago
290m of elevation gain over 10k. There will be mud and sand.
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coahc wrote:
ukathleticscoach wrote:
Farah doped to compete with the doping EA's and age cheats dominating this 'xc' event.
Are there any hills or mud on the course or is it just a grass track race. Snell ran 3:54 on a track 50 years ago
290m of elevation gain over 10k. There will be mud and sand.
Not sure there's a lot of mud around in the middle of summer in Australia.
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Neigh! wrote:
It's in Bathurst so there won't be mud.
It will be on dry dirt/grass I would imagine.
As far as I can tell they only send people they think have a chance of a medal, whether that be individual or team. Hence them sending the team for the mixed relay. But for me, the senior men and women's teams are the most important so I find it sad they are only sending one man. I wonder what the cost per athlete is? The main cost may be the flights and then there is accommodation. I can't see food and drink adding up to much and the team doctor and physiotherapist are already there. I'd love to see a costing per athlete to see what it is.
How many officials, coaches and team managers do these countries send? Would be interested to see everyone that goes and what their roles are.
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High hopes wrote:
TeteDLO wrote:
Marc Scott, Sam Atkin, Emile Cairess, Eilish McColgan, Charles Hicks, Jess Judd, Jess Piasecki, Lizzie Bird. Maybe they aren't all Lottery funded (several obvs on USA deals) and as you suggest, they are not going to be piling up global Golds like farah, or indeed Wightman, but it's not a bad bunch.
If we asked Rojo, he'd just say it's genetics. There's something about British genes that makes them more likely to be good at mid-d events. That's how this works, right?
It's clearly all about culture and environment. I'm sure the UK is littered with guys who if they'd stuck to the cause would be knocking out 12.5x and 26.4X but instead they work as dentists or derivative dealers. In kenya at altitude they don't have these options. But all the Kenyans at sea level go into the high paying professions so none of them ever make elite distance runners.
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