just listened to the podcast. Peter is calling out agents and coaches because they are sending athletes to the Norb Sander Invite. He has no idea that Sander is a "C" level meet which is only 1 level below "B" Lilac. Peter - before you start calling out others, make sure you have a clue on the subject.
I mean last year he said he only worked with athletes he felt had the potential to medal one day in a global final. Dude had Efraimson on his roster for three years, and while I have nothing against them and they seem fine humans, I can't say anyone is looking at Donaghu, Ribich, or Bartelsmeyer as people with global medal potential.
Guy talks a big game but clearly he's just saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff half the time. A bit of s rule of thumb that coaches like to blow smoke eg Mark Coogan back when he was saying Purrier was in American record shape (PR still sitting 4sec off US record 2 years later), or Gidey's coach saying she would break 2:12 (didn't even win the race) Gjert Ingebrigtsen saying Cheruiyot would never beat Jakob again (Tim beats Jakob less than a month later at the DL final), Jerry Schumacher says he's never heard of nandrolone.
I mean last year he said he only worked with athletes he felt had the potential to medal one day in a global final. Dude had Efraimson on his roster for three years, and while I have nothing against them and they seem fine humans, I can't say anyone is looking at Donaghu, Ribich, or Bartelsmeyer as people with global medal potential.
Guy talks a big game but clearly he's just saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff half the time. A bit of s rule of thumb that coaches like to blow smoke eg Mark Coogan back when he was saying Purrier was in American record shape (PR still sitting 4sec off US record 2 years later), or Gidey's coach saying she would break 2:12 (didn't even win the race) Gjert Ingebrigtsen saying Cheruiyot would never beat Jakob again (Tim beats Jakob less than a month later at the DL final), Jerry Schumacher says he's never heard of nandrolone.
Julian was never a worthy successor to Salazar's group. They just couldn't find anyone better because of the bad reputation of Salazar and the possibility everyone was doping.
just listened to the podcast. Peter is calling out agents and coaches because they are sending athletes to the Norb Sander Invite. He has no idea that Sander is a "C" level meet which is only 1 level below "B" Lilac. Peter - before you start calling out others, make sure you have a clue on the subject.
It still doesn’t make sense to fly across the country for lower points and less prize money. If you’re local to NYC, he wouldn’t have much of a point.
just listened to the podcast. Peter is calling out agents and coaches because they are sending athletes to the Norb Sander Invite. He has no idea that Sander is a "C" level meet which is only 1 level below "B" Lilac. Peter - before you start calling out others, make sure you have a clue on the subject.
It still doesn’t make sense to fly across the country for lower points and less prize money. If you’re local to NYC, he wouldn’t have much of a point.
Probable reasons which may make sense and lead some to fly across the country:
1. Event director's ability to recruit athletes
2. Win the mile at Dr. Sander = guaranteed entry into Millrose Mile (Gold / "A" level)
3. Marketing of event. Dr. Sander did a decent job announcing athletes and promoting the event
4. The Dr. Sander meet has been around much longer (years before the Podium in Spokane was built) - name recognition/familiarity/etc.
There are several reasons some smaller events with smaller budgets attract better competition than those with more prize money, etc. It's a positive thing that Lilac is creating more opportunities and raising the bar but calling out coaches and agents for sending athletes to a different meet is a jab below the belt imo. Work harder and make your meet more appealing and they'll probably come there next time.
This is where Max Siegel comes in as CEO and has an indoor track circuit where everyone is at the same meet racing each other…you know, like a profession sports organization. But no, he has us pointing fingers at each other as he literally does nothing.
Julian was never a worthy successor to Salazar's group. They just couldn't find anyone better because of the bad reputation of Salazar and the possibility everyone was doping.
He's done an objectively bad job.
Arguably had the most success out of all the American pro teams last year at the World Champs, plus Osako at NYC marathon and Klosterhalfen at Valencia. And is the only pro team putting on a pro meet and actually giving back and putting money into it. Some serious haters on here. I listened to the podcast and I thought it was really good and enlightening and honest. He gave lots of praise to his own athletes and other athletes. The only ones who could be offended by what he was saying was an agent not doing his/her job of knowing the WA points system.
If anyone listened to the podcast they would agree that Julian was giving out some sensible information. It’s the agents and coaches that aren’t paying attention to the new rules and Julian was trying to explain why this was foolish. The Sanders meet was WA level F meet up until just very recently.
Hate on Julian for his NOP involvement, but as a coach and advocate for the sport and the athletes he’s done well.
Unlike many most athletes, coaches and a lot of commentators Julian at least seems to have understood the ranking system and what the strategy for ranking points should be even though he erred about the category of Dr Sanders invite.
I mean last year he said he only worked with athletes he felt had the potential to medal one day in a global final. Dude had Efraimson on his roster for three years, and while I have nothing against them and they seem fine humans, I can't say anyone is looking at Donaghu, Ribich, or Bartelsmeyer as people with global medal potential.
Guy talks a big game but clearly he's just saying stuff for the sake of saying stuff half the time. A bit of s rule of thumb that coaches like to blow smoke eg Mark Coogan back when he was saying Purrier was in American record shape (PR still sitting 4sec off US record 2 years later), or Gidey's coach saying she would break 2:12 (didn't even win the race) Gjert Ingebrigtsen saying Cheruiyot would never beat Jakob again (Tim beats Jakob less than a month later at the DL final), Jerry Schumacher says he's never heard of nandrolone.
Purrier kinda has proven she was at least in the realm of the 1500m AR with sub 4 speed and was probably worth around 14:30 for 5000m. I also 100 percent think Alexa E could have been at least like a 1500m finalist once or twice. Injuries played a big role though. Pro track is a tough sport.