I'm going to say what many of you are thinking. The term "great hope" is mainly used for those who do not become American citizens as adults. If Jakob Ingebrigtsen were to become an American citizen, would we really think of him as the American hope for a world record in the mile? I'm glad that Mekonen and others have the freedom to become a U.S. citizens, but they will not generate the same interest as those who spent their formative years in the U.S.
I don't think anybody is thinking what you say, actually, - let alone "many". And that's not what you clearly said in your original post. If you want to back off and change your story, that's up to you.
For myself, I have a "great hope" that someone like Athing Mu will break a World Record as an American citizen.
If the "original" post you are referring to was part of the thread that discussed where GF falls in the list of American greats, then I think what I said there was consistent with my latest post; here it is again: "...if Jakob Ingebrigtsen were to become a U.S citizen in a couple of years and subsequently win a few championships, I suspect many here would not feel strongly about including him in a list of all-time U.S. greats."
Athing Mu grew up in the U.S. so my take on Mekonen would not apply to her.
As superb a performance it was by Emily Sisson isn't it crazy to think that her 66:52 would only rank her 93rd on the world all-time list for the women's half!
Yes, and 7th not of East African extraction. 93 of top 100 are. Also, only 18 marks of top 100 are before 2017, only 3 before 2000. There was an explosion of shoes, talent,... in the last 5-8 years.
I ran the full. First hour or so of running was OK, and I was on a pretty good pace for a recent PR (2:42). Last 5 miles of the marathon did have much shade and some sublte but rolling hills. When the sun came out it warmed up too much. I lost 7 minutes in the second half. So no, I don't think conditions were good for the full.
I ran the the half. Weather was definitely a bit warm and humid to start. Personally started sweating earlier than I normally do. Windy as well. There was a headwind no matter what the direction it felt like. Last 4 miles had the worst winds and last mile was a wind tunnel (which was awful). My friends who ran the marathon said the sun made it quite a bit warmer very quickly.
I think without the wind and lower temps Emily goes quite a bit faster.
I ran it too and agree 100% with your description. The weather might have had less of a negative effect on you if you came from a warmer climate but for anyone training in the cold (it is winter, after all, and hard to avoid in the north!) it was rough. Personally, I am not acclimated to heat and humidity like I was in August or September so it wrecked me and I slowed down quite a bit in the last part of the race despite how fit I am overall.
Even if Emily is well acclimated, ideal crisp, cool weather would obviously have been better. I talked to another pro woman in the top 10 afterward and she basically echoed that. I didn't look it up but I think that she lost a minute in the last 5k or so due to the cumulative effects of the weather.
Rojo, I've heard you twice refer to Dan Michalski's Nike contract as having been "sub four figures" which conveys that he had a Nike contract paying between $100-$999. This doesn't make sense. A "figure" refers to a digit to the left of the decimal point, and it is almost exclusively used to describe one-time payments and annual salaries. Did you mean sub five figures ($1,000 - $9,999)? Personally, I'm a mid six figure earner, so if someone tried to classify me as a mid five figure earner this would be catastrophic.
