Sondre Norstadt Moen: I don’t think this guy wears spikes because he has problems with his tendons if he wears spikes. I think he ran 2724 for 10,000 m on the track in road racing shoes but if wrong on that please correct me. Guy is a monster and I hope he gets back. 32 years young in 2023.
Surgery in the tendon, and this is the second time in his life. This was the reason because in 2020 Sondre ran on track with racing shoes, not for having some advantage.
The funny thing is that he bettered the European Record of 25 km on track in June, using Vaporfly (and the record was validated), but 4 days before his attempt against the European Record of one hour WA put the rule that it was not possible running on track with racing shoes, but with spikes only.
This was one of the most stupid and unfair rules ever in athletics, thinking that the type of shoes depends on the surface only, and not on the distance you run, too.
Running one hour or longer distances on track with spikes is the best way for destroying tendons and producing other kind of injuries.
You're allowed to run on the track in a spikeless shoe. The rule he broke and/or wanted to break in his next race regards the thickness of the sole. The Vaporfly was too tall. He wasn't told he must wear something with spikes, but rather a thinner shoe with or without them.
You're allowed to run on the track in a spikeless shoe. The rule he broke and/or wanted to break in his next race regards the thickness of the sole. The Vaporfly was too tall. He wasn't told he must wear something with spikes, but rather a thinner shoe with or without them.
Is there a vaporfly super shoe equivalent Nike shoe width a thinner sole? Anyway this is now moot because he runs for Puma and Puma might have a shoe which fits the bill and is legal for track which is not a spike. On this subject it is good to see the Norwegian monster sticking with a shoe brand for a long time and it looks like he's very satisfied with Puma shoes.
Surgery in the tendon, and this is the second time in his life. This was the reason because in 2020 Sondre ran on track with racing shoes, not for having some advantage.
The funny thing is that he bettered the European Record of 25 km on track in June, using Vaporfly (and the record was validated), but 4 days before his attempt against the European Record of one hour WA put the rule that it was not possible running on track with racing shoes, but with spikes only.
This was one of the most stupid and unfair rules ever in athletics, thinking that the type of shoes depends on the surface only, and not on the distance you run, too.
Running one hour or longer distances on track with spikes is the best way for destroying tendons and producing other kind of injuries.
What I find super impressive about the Norwegian, Moen, is that with his 348 752 credentials he is able to run 13:20/27:24 which means that he's one of the athletes who is able to sustain his native pace closest to his ultimate threshold more than any other athlete that I know of. Typically 13:20/27:24 type athletes would be minimum 4:00/mile or 3:42/1500, but more likely 3:39/7:45 speed. Hopefully the Norwegian monster will get back to his previous best and he's in good hands with Italian professor, Canova.
He hasn't been racing many 1500m in the last years (none at peak form?) so I think his PB is slightly misleading. But I agree with you, he is an aerobic monster, however, unfortunately with little kick. I hope he returns to form soon.
You're allowed to run on the track in a spikeless shoe. The rule he broke and/or wanted to break in his next race regards the thickness of the sole. The Vaporfly was too tall. He wasn't told he must wear something with spikes, but rather a thinner shoe with or without them.
^^^This, no?!? Is the athlete in question not at all familiar with what used to be called a true racing flat?!?
Surgery in the tendon, and this is the second time in his life. This was the reason because in 2020 Sondre ran on track with racing shoes, not for having some advantage.
The funny thing is that he bettered the European Record of 25 km on track in June, using Vaporfly (and the record was validated), but 4 days before his attempt against the European Record of one hour WA put the rule that it was not possible running on track with racing shoes, but with spikes only.
This was one of the most stupid and unfair rules ever in athletics, thinking that the type of shoes depends on the surface only, and not on the distance you run, too.
Running one hour or longer distances on track with spikes is the best way for destroying tendons and producing other kind of injuries.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't this about changing the rules what shoes to run on the track mainly was a question about the thickness of the soles giving advantage? Of course the runner doesn't need to use spikes at track and can use road race shoes as long as following the rules of permitted sole hight? Anyway I'm at the opinion it was good the WA ( former IAAF) put an end to this ridiculous contest between the shoe manufactors to make shoes with thicker and thicker soles and springing effect. Fair race running to me is about who is the best runner and not who has the best running shoes.
Surgery in the tendon, and this is the second time in his life. This was the reason because in 2020 Sondre ran on track with racing shoes, not for having some advantage.
The funny thing is that he bettered the European Record of 25 km on track in June, using Vaporfly (and the record was validated), but 4 days before his attempt against the European Record of one hour WA put the rule that it was not possible running on track with racing shoes, but with spikes only.
This was one of the most stupid and unfair rules ever in athletics, thinking that the type of shoes depends on the surface only, and not on the distance you run, too.
Running one hour or longer distances on track with spikes is the best way for destroying tendons and producing other kind of injuries.
What I find super impressive about the Norwegian, Moen, is that with his 348 752 credentials he is able to run 13:20/27:24 which means that he's one of the athletes who is able to sustain his native pace closest to his ultimate threshold more than any other athlete that I know of. Typically 13:20/27:24 type athletes would be minimum 4:00/mile or 3:42/1500, but more likely 3:39/7:45 speed. Hopefully the Norwegian monster will get back to his previous best and he's in good hands with Italian professor, Canova.
Don't you think it could have been interesting to see the wizard js to take on Moen? He use to brag here he's at least as good as Canova. Had been thrilling to follow.
What I find super impressive about the Norwegian, Moen, is that with his 348 752 credentials he is able to run 13:20/27:24 which means that he's one of the athletes who is able to sustain his native pace closest to his ultimate threshold more than any other athlete that I know of. Typically 13:20/27:24 type athletes would be minimum 4:00/mile or 3:42/1500, but more likely 3:39/7:45 speed. Hopefully the Norwegian monster will get back to his previous best and he's in good hands with Italian professor, Canova.
Don't you think it could have been interesting to see the wizard js to take on Moen? He use to brag here he's at least as good as Canova. Had been thrilling to follow.
That would be advantageous from the point of view that both of them speak mutually interchangeable languages, namely Norwegian and Swedish and of course English but I don't think it will be happening anytime soon because the Norwegian monster appears to be very individualistic in his training approach and from following him on Instagram he appears to do most of his training on his own. Interesting that many European elites prefer to a train on their own despite the advantages of training in groups which is the norm in Kenya, Ethiopia and even in Japan. I think it's a no-brainer that training in groups will confer advantages rather than negatives but perhaps some people will find that assertion misplaced.
Don't you think it could have been interesting to see the wizard js to take on Moen? He use to brag here he's at least as good as Canova. Had been thrilling to follow.
That would be advantageous from the point of view that both of them speak mutually interchangeable languages, namely Norwegian and Swedish and of course English but I don't think it will be happening anytime soon because the Norwegian monster appears to be very individualistic in his training approach and from following him on Instagram he appears to do most of his training on his own. Interesting that many European elites prefer to a train on their own despite the advantages of training in groups which is the norm in Kenya, Ethiopia and even in Japan. I think it's a no-brainer that training in groups will confer advantages rather than negatives but perhaps some people will find that assertion misplaced.
Hi Ghost1! Hope for a good 2023 for you.The advantage to train alone as I see it is that the runner always do the very best individual paces . The problem with Kenyan runners they try to follow the best and overdo they training , often with raised injury risk.
Btw anyone would recommend distance and tempo Puma models?
Puma is the best value for money out there. Their shoes are very good and their outsoles are in the best in the market in terms of grip. These are the ones I use:
Liberate Nitro - old school racing flat, great cushioning. Very cheap
Deviate Nitro Elite - Vaporfly equivalent, similar weight, slight lower stack and as close as it can be to a normal shoe. Very soft
Velocity Nitro 2 - similar to the Pegasus in terms of weight and use. A bit too cushy, if it makes any sense
There is also a new model which is similar to the Alphafly and the "normal" Deviate nitro which is a training shoe with a plate