Saw this via Chris Chavez on twitter:
Quite the change...
Saw this via Chris Chavez on twitter:
Quite the change...
Which one of these standards is most demented?
I guess that they are pretty much going all in with the stupid random point system which nobody understands
What happened to the 2:09:40 standard????
The qualification system for athletics competition at the Paris 2024 Olympic Games, to be held between 2-11 August 2024, has been published.
As was the case for the Olympic Games in Tokyo and the World Athletics Championships Oregon22, the qualification system (French version) will be based on a dual pathway of qualification, with 50% of athletes qualifying through entry standards and the remaining 50% qualifying through World Rankings.
The qualification system was approved by the World Athletics Council and includes details of the qualification windows, targeted number of athletes per discipline and entry standards.
The programme will include 23 women’s events and 23 men’s events as well as two mixed events – the 4x400m mixed relay and the 35km mixed team race walk.
For the 10,000m, combined events, race walks and relays, the qualification period runs from 31 December 2022 to 30 June 2024. For the marathon, the qualification window is from 1 November 2022 to 30 April 2024. For all other events, the qualification period runs from 1 July 2023 to 30 June 2024.
For the marathon, any athlete ranked higher than the 65th athlete on the filtered Quota Place “Road to Paris” list on 30 January 2024 will be considered qualified. After 30 January 2024, the remaining 20% of the quota will be determined by the same dual pathway qualification criteria outlined above, without displacing the athletes qualified per 30 January 2024. Any national Olympic committee may choose to reallocate a quota place to an unqualified athlete, provided the athlete in the qualification window has achieved at least a 2:11:30 (men) or 2:29:30 (women) performance.
World Athletics will publish the official qualification monitoring tool (Road to Paris) on the Stats Zone of the World Athletics website in the latter part of 2023.
Nassau in The Bahamas will host the World Athletics Relays, the main Olympic qualifying event for the relays, in April/May 2024 (dates to be confirmed).
The current sport-by-sport schedule for the Paris 2024 Olympic Games, which outlines the start and finish times of each session, can be found on the Paris 2024 website. Olympic Games ticketing is also now open.
Organisers have revealed the routes for the Olympic marathon and the two races – a 42.195km course and a 10km course – that will be open to the general public as part of mass event running.
Let's crack down on doping by ensuring everyone who qualifies is on the juice.
Oh great, this will only lead to more time trials.
I still don’t understand why the women’s marathon standard is so soft compared to every other event.
5000m just wow
The IOC and World Athletics want the best of the best at the Olympics. No more Eddie the Eagle, no oiled up Tonga guy, and no more aristocratic hobby joggers getting entry because Daddy is the Minister of Sport.
How much faster are they expecting the shoes to be next year?
I actually wonder if it will lead to fewer time trials. The times are such an extreme reach for the vast majority of Olympic Trials competitors. It seems like it could actually be a good way to get athletes to compete more often or more strategically to ensure a good world ranking. Even the likes of BTC can't assume they would hit these standards in a time trial.
I was looking at the throwing standards and man, they are laughably high. Like the discus standard. Based on the 2020 finals, only two men had performances in that final that meet the new standard. The entire thing is silly.
So basically they're forcing athletes to dope now with these sort of standards.
Looking forward to seeing what the new Olympic standards are for curling. I mean, you don't want any "sub-elite" athletes participating.🥌
Or just qualify via ranking. You guys keep forgetting that piece.
This keeps coming up, but here it is again. The emphasis is now on WORLD RANKING. World Athletics doesn't want to post a time standard and take in anyone and their dog who hits it. So they made the time standards really hard, such that a lot of the field will be pulled in through the world rankings. And for the most part if you are someone who can hit the world standard, you more than likely have the world standard.
So really people should just stop looking at the world/olympic standards. The world ranking is generally how you qualify now. The world athletics site has a nice filter where you limit to 'top 3 per country' so you can see what type of world ranking score is good enough to qualify. Then you filter by country rankings, and anyone who has a ranking score higher than what you saw as 'the last guy in' at the world level can technically qualify.
Here is an example, let's say they will accept 24 athletes for the 10,000m on the track. Limiting to 3 per country, Jack Rayner of Australia is the 24th highest ranking score athlete with 1186 points. For reference Sean McGorty is the USA #3 guy at 1207 points. Right now USA only has 3 guys above the 1186 points that is the 24th spot right now, Grant Fisher, Joe Klecker, and Sean McGorty. Those three would go to the olympics right now since we have exactly three, even though only one of them has the 'standard' of sub 27. The standard doesn't really matter, it's about the world rankings now. Let's say Mantz runs a little better and moves up from a 1177 score to a 1190. Now USA has 4 guys who have a ranking score high enough to be in the top 24 when limiting to 3 per country. Now you have a race amongst those 4 guys at the US championships to pick the three guys we send. And it is possible that there is a 5th guy, who is right on the outside of being ranked high enough and if he could win and get the bonus points for winning USAs and have a fast 'enough' time such that it improves his ranking score above that 1186 then that person could now go.
So the standards don't really matter, it's largely about world ranking now. And bonus points are a large part of the ranking, so if you can run fast and WIN a big race, you're going to be rewarded with a good ranking.
The mens 10k is nuts. Legit think only Grant has run that. Our 10k US champ’s PR is 23 seconds slower. Cue the time trials
Sure that is all true. It may only matter in the US, but it makes the trials more confusing.
Who knows, maybe it will help get people to race more often. But you have to get in to those races to have a chance to get points. Part of the purity of running, is that if you hit the time nobody can argue it. There is no subjectivity (or confusing point system).
Not true. Smaller countries will still be able to enter lousy athletes.
IOC still wants smaller countries to be represented so there will still be a few slow "how in the world did they get in" athletes from countries we've never heard of.
My only concern really, is that as a fan of the sport it makes it hard to figure out where your favorite runners stand in terms of selection. I hope that some how WA, USATF etc make it easy and even exciting to follow... but I'm sure not holding my breath.