Before you get annoyed at me for not talking about specific subjects, we had a limited time period and all the questions were written (to be approved) before the conversation was recorded. Would have loved to discuss Randolph Ross looking back (this was recorded before his official ban came out).
I love listening to podcasts and usually don’t do so unless I can do something else at the same time - work in the yard, house work, workout in the basement, etc. Otherwise, I just can’t devote the time to them, 75 minutes in the case of your podcast. If I am not doing something at the same time I find myself constantly fast forwarding until I come upon something I want to listen to. I really want to listen to your podcast but unless I can incorporate it into something else I am doing, 75 minutes is just too much time to devote to it. Is there anyway you can list out the topics and at what time stamp it occurs at?
I love listening to podcasts and usually don’t do so unless I can do something else at the same time - work in the yard, house work, workout in the basement, etc. Otherwise, I just can’t devote the time to them, 75 minutes in the case of your podcast. If I am not doing something at the same time I find myself constantly fast forwarding until I come upon something I want to listen to. I really want to listen to your podcast but unless I can incorporate it into something else I am doing, 75 minutes is just too much time to devote to it. Is there anyway you can list out the topics and at what time stamp it occurs at?
Thanks for the feedback. I'll give you rough time stamps:
0:00-4:00: Intro/Ads (don't need to listening to)
4:00-19:45: His background, doing sports as a kid, studying philosophy at UNC, etc.
19:45-41:00- A deep dive into USADA history, how many athletes he think's cheats and gets away with it, more USADA practical questions like who/how often gets tested.
42:00-52:30: A deep-dive into taking down Lance Armstrong
52:30-1:15: Who USADA decides to defend, Shelby H case, how corrupt Russia has been/thoughts on their case, lessons learned from his career, and some other questions.
Hopefully that helps and you can pick something in there that interests you.
Thanks for the feedback. I'll give you rough time stamps:
0:00-4:00: Intro/Ads (don't need to listening to)
4:00-19:45: His background, doing sports as a kid, studying philosophy at UNC, etc.
19:45-41:00- A deep dive into USADA history, how many athletes he think's cheats and gets away with it, more USADA practical questions like who/how often gets tested.
42:00-52:30: A deep-dive into taking down Lance Armstrong
52:30-1:15: Who USADA decides to defend, Shelby H case, how corrupt Russia has been/thoughts on their case, lessons learned from his career, and some other questions.
Hopefully that helps and you can pick something in there that interests you.
Thank you for taking the time to answer. I’ll definitely catch the the Armstrong segment and Shelby after that. Hopefully I’ll find time to listen to the rest.
I loved it when Tygart took down Armstrong. In my eyes Armstrong’s sin wasn’t necessarily doping, because so much of the peloton did it, it was all of the lies and how much harm he did to others. I was most put off on how Armstrong messed with Greg LeMond. Armstrong didn’t have a fraction of the natural talent that LeMond had and both riders knew it. What he did to LeMond was disgusting.
52:30-1:15: Who USADA decides to defend, Shelby H case, how corrupt Russia has been/thoughts on their case, lessons learned from his career, and some other questions.
Didn't you say that you wanted to act as a neutral journalist? Yet several times you tried to get Tygart to agree with your opinion that Shelby is innocent - he didn't fall for that though. He also didn't fall for the burrito story, and explicitly said that the AIU acted exactly as they should have. He also pointed out that it wasn't a trace amount (nanograms, not picograms, he said).
The back-and-forth on supplements, well, even Shelby didn't believe it, and neither did Tygart, as he explicitly said at the beginning, though he didn't want to exclude that possibility either.
But I should also say that it was quite a coup for you to get Tygart in a one-on-one interview for 75 minutes. Good for you!
I would disagree however that the biggest ban story for American T&F in the last two years was Houlihan. That questionable honor should either go to - McNeal, who got a five year ban as the reigning Olympic champ, and was earlier banned by USADA for too many missed tests, or - Coleman, who got banned as the reigning World champ over 100 m, as that is one of the key events, and that after USADA's provisional ban that they rescinded just before Worlds that he won.
Compared to those two, Houlihan hasn't shown much on the global level at all.
Finally, questions about USADA's questionable history of both warning and courtesy calls before and during attempted ooc tests could have been quite informative. Did you try those, and he shut them down?
No adult is friends with a child and you need to stop referring to professional athletes, especially Shelby, as your friends when they are not. Are you grabbing beers with them? Are you hanging out with them? Are they confiding in you about their lives, work, relationships? They aren't your friends. I feel bad for you because it's clear that Shelby and her team have exploited you, your youth and your naivety for her own gain, but it's getting tiresome, and you are getting older and you have to take some responsibility here for platforming and promoting someone serving a ban, with little evidence that she is innocent.
Travis Tygart said that the AIU handled it exactly as it should have been handled. From the horses mouth. Travis is NOT on Shelby's side as she has said he is. Yet another lie from Shelby.
Travis believes it was a supplement that caused the positive test. If that is true it means Shelby purposefully lied because she knows what supplements she is taking. I've always believed Shelby knows where the source is whether she was intentionally cheating or not. Lying about the source, is still wrong and she deserves a ban.
Travis on the length of the ban: they couldn't determine what caused it. They went the meat route and not the supplements. Since they couldn't prove it, then intentional doping is on the table and so she had to serve the ban. Travis has no issue with the ban. He is not against it.
Travis recommendations: use certified supplements. He tries to educate people on supplements, and hold on to supplements just in case they test positive.
If interested, here is my in-depth 75min episode with the man who took down Lance Armstrong and is the CEO of USADA:
Let's set the facts straight here. Tygart was not the one that took down Lance Armstrong. Tygart just took all the credit for it when it was actually Betsy Andreu that did all the leg work to call out Armstrong all those years that eventually resulted in everyone confessing. Tygart did squat but took all the credit from the woman that did all the real work.
Finally, questions about USADA's questionable history of both warning and courtesy calls before and during attempted ooc tests could have been quite informative. Did you try those, and he shut them down?
Of course Tygart shut down any questions that made him look bad. That's why Tygart required all the questions in writing that he would pre-approve. Wouldn't want anyone calling out how corrupt he and the rest of the USADA are compared to the AIU.
But I should also say that it was quite a coup for you to get Tygart in a one-on-one interview for 75 minutes. Good for you!
I would disagree however that the biggest ban story for American T&F in the last two years was Houlihan. That questionable honor should either go to - McNeal, who got a five year ban as the reigning Olympic champ, and was earlier banned by USADA for too many missed tests, or - Coleman, who got banned as the reigning World champ over 100 m, as that is one of the key events, and that after USADA's provisional ban that they rescinded just before Worlds that he won.
Compared to those two, Houlihan hasn't shown much on the global level at all.
Finally, questions about USADA's questionable history of both warning and courtesy calls before and during attempted ooc tests could have been quite informative. Did you try those, and he shut them down?
You make good points, and that’s just a lack of research/critical thinking on my part. Thanks for the feedback!
I know Coleman got a lot of publicity, but I think why I said “the biggest case in the past two years is Shelby Houlihan” is just because of how much the story exploded. I mean she went on Fox News the next day, I can’t remember that happening with Coleman or McNeal. I was more saying “biggest” as in what case got the most attention.
Finally, questions about USADA's questionable history of both warning and courtesy calls before and during attempted ooc tests could have been quite informative. Did you try those, and he shut them down?
Of course Tygart shut down any questions that made him look bad. That's why Tygart required all the questions in writing that he would pre-approve. Wouldn't want anyone calling out how corrupt he and the rest of the USADA are compared to the AIU.
Can you please try to explain to me how USADA is corrupt? Genuinely curious how it all works which is why I got Tygart on the show. Would love to hear you elaborate a little more!
No adult is friends with a child and you need to stop referring to professional athletes, especially Shelby, as your friends when they are not. Are you grabbing beers with them? Are you hanging out with them? Are they confiding in you about their lives, work, relationships? They aren't your friends. I feel bad for you because it's clear that Shelby and her team have exploited you, your youth and your naivety for her own gain, but it's getting tiresome, and you are getting older and you have to take some responsibility here for platforming and promoting someone serving a ban, with little evidence that she is innocent.
Travis Tygart said that the AIU handled it exactly as it should have been handled. From the horses mouth. Travis is NOT on Shelby's side as she has said he is. Yet another lie from Shelby.
Travis believes it was a supplement that caused the positive test. If that is true it means Shelby purposefully lied because she knows what supplements she is taking. I've always believed Shelby knows where the source is whether she was intentionally cheating or not. Lying about the source, is still wrong and she deserves a ban.
Travis on the length of the ban: they couldn't determine what caused it. They went the meat route and not the supplements. Since they couldn't prove it, then intentional doping is on the table and so she had to serve the ban. Travis has no issue with the ban. He is not against it.
Travis recommendations: use certified supplements. He tries to educate people on supplements, and hold on to supplements just in case they test positive.
When within the podcast did I reference being friends with Shelby? I made sure not to reference being friends and tried to stay as neutral as possible. If I came across as admittedly pro-Houlihan that was not my intent. If you perceived it that way, I guess I could have done a better job!
Finally, questions about USADA's questionable history of both warning and courtesy calls before and during attempted ooc tests could have been quite informative. Did you try those, and he shut them down?
Of course Tygart shut down any questions that made him look bad. That's why Tygart required all the questions in writing that he would pre-approve. Wouldn't want anyone calling out how corrupt he and the rest of the USADA are compared to the AIU.
For clarity’s sake, Tygart did not decline any of my questions and was a very enjoyable and informative guest! It was I who said I would send questions ahead of time to be approved. I knew if I said that/did that the chances of getting an interview with him exponentially go up. I’m glad we could make an interview happen and I have nothing but positive things to say about Tygart!
Of course Tygart shut down any questions that made him look bad. That's why Tygart required all the questions in writing that he would pre-approve. Wouldn't want anyone calling out how corrupt he and the rest of the USADA are compared to the AIU.
Can you please try to explain to me how USADA is corrupt? Genuinely curious how it all works which is why I got Tygart on the show. Would love to hear you elaborate a little more!
Like the other poster wrote before, the USADA in the past had been phoning the athletes to give them a heads up before they get tested, huge corruption to protect American athletes from testing positive. And then ask yourself why the AIU, an organization just a few years old, has regularly been catching highly prominent American athletes with just a few tests where the USADA never returns a positive test despite doing orders of magnitudes more tests on the same American athletes.
Of course Tygart shut down any questions that made him look bad. That's why Tygart required all the questions in writing that he would pre-approve. Wouldn't want anyone calling out how corrupt he and the rest of the USADA are compared to the AIU.
For clarity’s sake, Tygart did not decline any of my questions and was a very enjoyable and informative guest! It was I who said I would send questions ahead of time to be approved. I knew if I said that/did that the chances of getting an interview with him exponentially go up. I’m glad we could make an interview happen and I have nothing but positive things to say about Tygart!
Looks like you didn't even have the backbone to put in the real hard hitting questions about the corruption of the USADA that the AIU's testing have made clear is happening. Let's see how fast Tygart gives you the cold shoulder if you include questions probing the USADA cover ups and pre-test notification of American athletes and why it never catches the prominent American athletes the AIU is catching.
Can you please try to explain to me how USADA is corrupt? Genuinely curious how it all works which is why I got Tygart on the show. Would love to hear you elaborate a little more!
Like the other poster wrote before, the USADA in the past had been phoning the athletes to give them a heads up before they get tested, huge corruption to protect American athletes from testing positive. And then ask yourself why the AIU, an organization just a few years old, has regularly been catching highly prominent American athletes with just a few tests where the USADA never returns a positive test despite doing orders of magnitudes more tests on the same American athletes.
Could you send me some article or piece that backs up this info? That’s crazy if true.
Like the other poster wrote before, the USADA in the past had been phoning the athletes to give them a heads up before they get tested, huge corruption to protect American athletes from testing positive. And then ask yourself why the AIU, an organization just a few years old, has regularly been catching highly prominent American athletes with just a few tests where the USADA never returns a positive test despite doing orders of magnitudes more tests on the same American athletes.
Could you send me some article or piece that backs up this info? That’s crazy if true.
Seems you are either really young or naiive, maybe both. You should start with the corruption of the USADA in the boxing world and then work your way forwards to athletics:
Never ever ever agree to an interview condition like letting a subject see your questions first. That’s not what an interview is. You got worked.
I send all of my guests an outline of our conversation before we record. Very standard procedure in the podcasting world. Not sure if you are joking
it's pretty common knowledge in reporting that you shouldn't reveal your questions to subjects in advance. Of course subjects will ask for them. they want to look good! But a reporter wants the story. Definitely don't agree to this if you want to be taken seriously in the future.
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