Shelby Houlihan is Clean, USADA Still Tests Her Regularly Since Ban

cleansportfan wrote:

How do all the dirty athletes evade detection while being tested regularly? Thats what I would like to know. Zero chance that the positive tests happen only the first time someone dopes.

USADA Security Theatre wrote:

I found this quite amusing. Despite Houlihan having been caught and banned by the AIU in 2021, the USADA has still been regularly PED testing Houlihan since that time and all the USADA testing has returned no positives.

Number of times the USADA has tested Houlihan per quarter:

Q1 2021: 3

Q2 2021: 6

Q3 2021: 6

Q4 2021: 0

Q1 2022: 4

Q2 2022: 9

Q3 2022: 3

Q4 2022: 0

So base on this, I certainly "believe" Jerry Schumacher when he says Houlihan is "clean". After all, the USADA drug testing works and they are not reclassifying positive tests as negatives, right? The AIU must be wrong with their laser like targetted testing of American athletes.

840FTL wrote:

Yep, Lance was clean too.

USADA Security Theatre wrote:

cleansportfan wrote:

How do all the dirty athletes evade detection while being tested regularly? Thats what I would like to know. Zero chance that the positive tests happen only the first time someone dopes.

Because we learned in the Houlihan case that the USADA has been reclassifying positive test results of American athletes as negatives when the athlete claims food/supplement contamination. Hence why the AIU caught Houlihan but the USADA said that Houlihan is clean.

USADA Security Theatre wrote:

I found this quite amusing. Despite Houlihan having been caught and banned by the AIU in 2021, the USADA has still been regularly PED testing Houlihan since that time and all the USADA testing has returned no positives.

Number of times the USADA has tested Houlihan per quarter:

Q1 2021: 3

Q2 2021: 6

Q3 2021: 6

Q4 2021: 0

Q1 2022: 4

Q2 2022: 9

Q3 2022: 3

Q4 2022: 0

So base on this, I certainly "believe" Jerry Schumacher when he says Houlihan is "clean". After all, the USADA drug testing works and they are not reclassifying positive tests as negatives, right? The AIU must be wrong with their laser like targetted testing of American athletes.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

There's nothing really surprising about this. If you know you're not going to be able to compete why would you dope? I think you're being facetious, but it would take a real moron to cheat during a lengthy ban. And to Runningart above me, maybe it is easy to beat the tests IF you have resources and a sophisticated regimen. The tests are pretty good though. I really do believe that.

Not sure why this needs to be a thread. It doesn't surprise me that Shelby hasn't had a positive test since.

1 positive test is one too many.

hula cute wrote:

She tested negative to get the record. Move on.

hula cute wrote:

She tested negative to get the record. Move on.

casual obsever wrote:

The tests are, in theory, good, yes, but they are helpless, if the athlete respects the glowing times, and limits their hct increases to <10%.

So you need some planning, but not a lot of sophistication.

USADA Security Theatre wrote:

I found this quite amusing. Despite Houlihan having been caught and banned by the AIU in 2021, the USADA has still been regularly PED testing Houlihan since that time and all the USADA testing has returned no positives.

THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

The tests are, in theory, good, yes, but they are helpless, if the athlete respects the glowing times, and limits their hct increases to <10%.

So you need some planning, but not a lot of sophistication.

Yes, it seems this is the case. Does mean that “full throttle” doping is less feasible and of course mistakes can be made.

USADA Security Theatre wrote:

I found this quite amusing. Despite Houlihan having been caught and banned by the AIU in 2021, the USADA has still been regularly PED testing Houlihan since that time and all the USADA testing has returned no positives.

Number of times the USADA has tested Houlihan per quarter:

Q1 2021: 3

Q2 2021: 6

Q3 2021: 6

Q4 2021: 0

Q1 2022: 4

Q2 2022: 9

Q3 2022: 3

Q4 2022: 0

So base on this, I certainly "believe" Jerry Schumacher when he says Houlihan is "clean". After all, the USADA drug testing works and they are not reclassifying positive tests as negatives, right? The AIU must be wrong with their laser like targetted testing of American athletes.