Update: USTFCCCA comes to its senses and removes Randolph Ross from Bowerman consideration

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1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:08pm EST

LRC Note: The title initially incorrectly said Duane Ross instead of Randolph.

What. A. Joke.

Men’s finalists for The Bowerman in 2022 are Trey Cunningham of Florida State, Ayden Owens-Delerme of Arkansas and Randolph Ross Jr. of North Carolina A&T...

Women’s finalists for The Bowerman in 2022 are Anna Hall of Florida, Camryn Rogers of California and Abby Steiner of Kentucky.

Actually, maybe this is a good thing. If we fly Jonathan Gault to the awards show, can we interview him? Tennessee never answer the questions we emailed them.

https://www.ustfccca.org/2022/12/featured/the-bowerman-one-week-until-2022-presentation

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1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:38pm EST

Running Cult Member wrote:
XY wrote:
Are Duane and Randolph the same person?
Um, yes. His full name is Randolph Duane Ross. No idea what the OP thinks he did that is ethically wrong.

It is odd to refer to him as Duane Ross in the thread title. His father went by Duane, but the Bowerman finalist has always gone by Randolph.

He was suspended by the AIU either for testing positive or for a whereabouts violation, I can’t remember which.

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:41pm EST

re: John Wesley Harding

John Wesley Harding wrote:
Running Cult Member wrote:
Um, yes. His full name is Randolph Duane Ross. No idea what the OP thinks he did that is ethically wrong.
It is odd to refer to him as Duane Ross in the thread title. His father went by Duane, but the Bowerman finalist has always gone by Randolph.
He was suspended by the AIU either for testing positive or for a whereabouts violation, I can’t remember which.

Was actually for tampering with doping controls on a whereabouts violation. Not sure if we ever got clarity on what that means, but guessing he missed a test and then tried to lie about it?

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:42pm EST

re: John Wesley Harding

John Wesley Harding wrote:
Running Cult Member wrote:
Um, yes. His full name is Randolph Duane Ross. No idea what the OP thinks he did that is ethically wrong.
It is odd to refer to him as Duane Ross in the thread title. His father went by Duane, but the Bowerman finalist has always gone by Randolph.
He was suspended by the AIU either for testing positive or for a whereabouts violation, I can’t remember which.

I think they were unable to locate him so he was suspended for tampering with the testing process but arguably he is less suspect than Shelby who might be LetsRuns woman of the year if they were to name one?

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:42pm EST

Jack Parker wrote:
Running Cult Member wrote:
Um, yes. His full name is Randolph Duane Ross. No idea what the OP thinks he did that is ethically wrong.
Maybe being a convicted doper? Also nobody calls him Duane Ross, thats his dad, Rojo just messed up

Oh yeah, "gotcha 'journalism.'" Also, I seem to forget that an award named Bowerman is not a coaching award, it's certainly an athletic award. Sort of like the Wooden Award.

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:43pm EST

re: rojo

I thought you were making this up, until you said you’re not making this up. Then I realized, you’re not making this up.

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:48pm EST

re: Wore

Wore wrote:
John Wesley Harding wrote:
It is odd to refer to him as Duane Ross in the thread title. His father went by Duane, but the Bowerman finalist has always gone by Randolph.
He was suspended by the AIU either for testing positive or for a whereabouts violation, I can’t remember which.
I think they were unable to locate him so he was suspended for tampering with the testing process but arguably he is less suspect than Shelby who might be LetsRuns woman of the year if they were to name one?

Also, the same kind of whereabouts violation that gets a free pass for Gabby Thomas. It didn't affect his college season, so damning the USFTCAA for not applying that to their criteria for the award is rather thick-headed.

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:50pm EST

re: rojo

Rojo, you still LOVE Shelby Houlihan. Don’t you have any ethics?

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:50pm EST

re: rojo

rojo wrote:
What. A. Joke.
Men’s finalists for The Bowerman in 2022 are Trey Cunningham of Florida State, Ayden Owens-Delerme of Arkansas and Randolph Ross Jr. of North Carolina A&T...

Women’s finalists for The Bowerman in 2022 are Anna Hall of Florida, Camryn Rogers of California and Abby Steiner of Kentucky.
Actually, maybe this is a good thing. If we fly Jonathan Gault to the awards show, can we interview him? Tennessee never answer the questions we emailed them.
https://www.ustfccca.org/2022/12/featured/the-bowerman-one-week-until-2022-presentation

What. A. Joke.

1 year ago 12/08/2022 2:58pm EST

re: Running Cult Member

Running Cult Member wrote:
Wore wrote:
I think they were unable to locate him so he was suspended for tampering with the testing process but arguably he is less suspect than Shelby who might be LetsRuns woman of the year if they were to name one?
Also, the same kind of whereabouts violation that gets a free pass for Gabby Thomas. It didn't affect his college season, so damning the USFTCAA for not applying that to their criteria for the award is rather thick-headed.

You really have no idea what you are talking about. Ross was suspended for tampering with the process, Thomas was provisionally suspended and then cleared for missing tests. Not even trying to defend Thomas here, because missing 2 tests is still sus for me, but come on get your facts straight. You are like 0/4 on this thread with your statements

1 year ago 12/08/2022 10:41pm EST

re: Jack Parker

He was suspended for TAMPERING which is wildly more serious than missing a test. We have heard zero explanation for what that meant by him or USADA from what I can tell. We reached out to Tennessee at the time and never heard anything.

If he has a good explanation or was screwed over, I'll be happy to admit he's suffered great harm but since there has been crickets for 6 months, I highly doubt that's the case.

1 year ago 12/08/2022 11:15pm EST

re: rojo

1 year ago 12/08/2022 11:37pm EST

re: rojo

This is too easy, but "Bowerman" is nothing if it's not associated with doping these days.

1 year ago 12/09/2022 6:07am EST

re: rojo

It’s Nike, doping is what they do.

1 year ago 12/09/2022 6:32am EST

re: rojo

rojo wrote:
He was suspended for TAMPERING which is wildly more serious than missing a test. We have heard zero explanation for what that meant by him or USADA from what I can tell. We reached out to Tennessee at the time and never heard anything.
If he has a good explanation or was screwed over, I'll be happy to admit he's suffered great harm but since there has been crickets for 6 months, I highly doubt that's the case.

Tampering, yes, but by the AIU not USADA. Note that it is a provisional suspension, meaning more details will be published by the AIU after the DT decision.

That decision is actually overdue, as the notice of allegation was issued in July.

1 year ago 12/09/2022 10:09am EST

re: rojo

Unfortunately I'm not surprised, as USTFCCCA has flown Brianna Rollins back to the awards (along with other former winners) even w/ her history.

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