Will Aaron Sahlman get the 800 and mile records this year?

My betting answer is no.

I say no bc of the idiotic drama between his team. If he actually runs unattached it will be infinitely harder

You just said a 1:46 and cross country champ but he is only one of those things. A drop from 1:48 to 1:46 is more significant than you think.

Can you imagine how LR would react if Aaron ran on pure hate and beat both twins to set a national record gd that would be crazy

+1

you gotta remember that Newbury park has these guys in top tier shape already. He’d have to really focus on getting that 400m to 47.x, which he doesn’t strike me as the type to have that kind of speed. I think he will break 4:00 and maybe get under 1:48, which is amazing for a highschooler.

What did Granville run as a junior? One of my teammates went from 1:50 to 1:47 from soph to junior year of college.

None of the NP guys are that good right now. Just super-trained mid-talent guys. He's mature for his age. Not going to get that much better.

I'll say no but he gets sub 1:48 and 3:57. He'll have a better senior year than the Youngs.

Fair but also his 1:48 was from March. He didn't break 1:51 again for the rest of the season, even though he was able to run 4:01 in June. Based on him running 1:48 in the only race he had against his brother, and his performance at NXN, I wonder if he's just not motivated a lot of the time. If that's the case, I could see him being on fire this season trying to prove something. Tbf I could also see him quitting running because he doesn't have the structure of the team.

Dang I remember reading that abt Nico so much a couple years ago. Classic LR posters being dumbfvcks.

I think that's a fair point, but keep in mind he ran 1:48 as a 16 year old. They may already be in top tier shape, but generally HS guys will improve just from maturing physically. Sub-1:48 is a safer bet, but since he has his sights set on it, I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. He did just win NXN in what I think was a significantly better performance than his 6th at RL last year.

You absolutely do not need to be a 47.X guy to run 1:46.4, especially when he has much better endurance than your typical 800 runner.

In what world is a 1:48 4:01 guy ever mid talent?

Mid talent is training your butt off and running 2:00 and 4:40

« ultra-trained » Jakob Ingebrigtsen went from 3:39 to 3:31 from 16 to 17.

Aaron was 16 when he ran 4:01 and 1:48.

Age don't mean much. Some kids start puberty at an earlier age, say 11 or 12. So if he started puberty 4-5 years ago he's pretty mature for his age.

How many of the guys on this list were peaking for a 5k at any point during the year?

worldathletics.org

800 Metres - men - u18 - outdoor

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Stop with promoting and hyping these high school runners to such an extent.

It’s the American way that results, most of the time, in unrealistic expectations from coaches, parents, media and athlete burn out.

Listening to the pros this weekend at NXN talking to the high school athletes - they said something along the lines of enjoying High School, slow down and enjoy, because at the pro level the expectations are different. They didn’t mean not to take their running seriously and at the same time they were saying don’t get all consumed. Those words of advice came from three pro athletes (Fisher, Brazier, and Sinclair) who were amazingly talented high school athletes that didn’t overtrain when in high school and have gone on to achieve great success as pros.

Hyping HS athletes and their entourage to break this record and that may feel great in the short term when in fact we should be encouraging and creating balance and a supportive path for their longer term athletic success - when it most matters.

It is pretty crazy to see Webb's record still stands. It really is an incredible record. Imagine if he ran today. He would run potentially under 3:50 with the better technology. It's not only the "super shoes," it's the cumulative technology imporovement since 2001.

Anyways, Sahlman won't be close to the record. I think the only way Webb's record ever goes down is if an East African comes to the U.S. as a senior in high school after training for 3-4 years in East Africa. Look at the top times lists every year. 3:49 is top 5 in the world. To break the record you have to be a top 10 miler in the world. The WORLD. That's not happening. The Newbury Park kids are special, but the record is more special.

A US rock climber trained for 2 years and ran the equivalent of 3:51 as a senior, so I disagree.