I think you can run the first mile in a HS cross country race in 4:30 and you will demoralize other competitors in the Southern California area but if you try to do it with the best HS runners in the country it doesn't have the same effect. I have not seen the NXN race videos yet but wasn't one of the brothers actually in the lead at the 2.75 mile point? Not sure how you blow up that badly that late in a 5K. Every time I ran the first mile of a 5K to fast the damage was immediate not 400M from the finish
You've gotta watch the race video it's actually crazy. I think you're right about 4:30 not demoralizing their competitors. The one thing about high schoolers is they're never afraid to go out too fast, especially the ones that haven't been gapped all season, which is pretty much all of the top individuals. I think they expected it to go kinda like Nico's 2019 win, and as stacked as that field was, this one was on another level. Also, in 2019 Nico was leading from really early on, whereas L&L dropped a couple hugeee surges to drop Gorze today. Those surges were probably just a bit too much to handle. Aaron flying by him on the last hill probably wrecked his mental which was likely the last nail in the coffin. Also him dropping 10 places was probably due to a group of like 8 guys all getting him right before the line.
I have not seen the NXN race videos yet but wasn't one of the brothers actually in the lead at the 2.75 mile point? Not sure how you blow up that badly that late in a 5K.
Leo was going too fast in front on a windy day and he was starting to run out of gas at 2.75 miles when there was a hill that killed Leo. Leo went from "maybe I can hang in there" to "crap I'm done" in just a few seconds.
Watch the race. You won't believe how fast Aaron passed Leo going up that hill. Maybe the fastest pass on a hill in high school xc history.
I think you can run the first mile in a HS cross country race in 4:30 and you will demoralize other competitors in the Southern California area but if you try to do it with the best HS runners in the country it doesn't have the same effect. I have not seen the NXN race videos yet but wasn't one of the brothers actually in the lead at the 2.75 mile point? Not sure how you blow up that badly that late in a 5K. Every time I ran the first mile of a 5K to fast the damage was immediate not 400M from the finish
I believe the first quarter was 61 and first k 2:40. They told their bodies they were racing 3k not 5k. If they had raced smarter like sahlman than they would of been top 3. They simply bonked from going out too fast and not then never settling in.
I believe the first quarter was 61 and first k 2:40. They told their bodies they were racing 3k not 5k. If they had raced smarter like sahlman than they would of been top 3. They simply bonked from going out too fast and not then never settling in.
Correct. Even if Aaron had outkicked them, Lex and Leo should still have able to finish 2 and 3 if they had gone out more sensibly.
I think you can run the first mile in a HS cross country race in 4:30 and you will demoralize other competitors in the Southern California area but if you try to do it with the best HS runners in the country it doesn't have the same effect. I have not seen the NXN race videos yet but wasn't one of the brothers actually in the lead at the 2.75 mile point? Not sure how you blow up that badly that late in a 5K. Every time I ran the first mile of a 5K to fast the damage was immediate not 400M from the finish
I believe the first quarter was 61 and first k 2:40. They told their bodies they were racing 3k not 5k. If they had raced smarter like sahlman than they would of been top 3. They simply bonked from going out too fast and not then never settling in.
Sahlman was the one in the lead at 400m and the one to set this crazy pace though.
I believe the first quarter was 61 and first k 2:40. They told their bodies they were racing 3k not 5k. If they had raced smarter like sahlman than they would of been top 3. They simply bonked from going out too fast and not then never settling in.
Sahlman was the one in the lead at 400m and the one to set this crazy pace though.
There were actually 3 sets of leaders in the first mile.
A group of the top boys lead at first. Then eventually Aaron Sahlman took over the lead. Then Lex and Leo took over the lead after that.
I think you can run the first mile in a HS cross country race in 4:30 and you will demoralize other competitors in the Southern California area but if you try to do it with the best HS runners in the country it doesn't have the same effect. I have not seen the NXN race videos yet but wasn't one of the brothers actually in the lead at the 2.75 mile point? Not sure how you blow up that badly that late in a 5K. Every time I ran the first mile of a 5K to fast the damage was immediate not 400M from the finish
"Not sure how you blow up that badly that late in a 5K."
For Leo it was a very fine line. You could probably argue that if it was a flat finish a la Running Lane maybe he’d hold on for second. The hill destroyed him though and there were a lot of top guys finishing hard. It was a tough day to be at the front, and I assume that the wind/surges/fast first mile all led to a tough last 500 megers.
I believe the first quarter was 61 and first k 2:40. They told their bodies they were racing 3k not 5k. If they had raced smarter like sahlman than they would of been top 3. They simply bonked from going out too fast and not then never settling in.
If you wrote more intelligently you would realize you meant "would've." I can't believe some illiterates write "would of" and think that's correct.
I believe the first quarter was 61 and first k 2:40. They told their bodies they were racing 3k not 5k. If they had raced smarter like sahlman than they would of been top 3. They simply bonked from going out too fast and not then never settling in.
If you wrote more intelligently you would realize you meant "would've." I can't believe some illiterates write "would have" and think that's correct.
Why would you not believe an illiterate would write that - wouldn’t it be expected? Especially for someone with perfect writing skills.
For Leo it was a very fine line. You could probably argue that if it was a flat finish a la Running Lane maybe he’d hold on for second. The hill destroyed him though and there were a lot of top guys finishing hard. It was a tough day to be at the front, and I assume that the wind/surges/fast first mile all led to a tough last 500 megers.
Yup. Leo still had 2 second lead over Aaron at the 14:00 mark in the race. I think he was just below redlining until he hit the hill.
He then lost to Aaron by 14s. He lost 16 seconds in the last ~250m.
Go watch 2019 xc master class video on hd runners. Brosnan is doing post race analysis with the Great Oak coach and Brosnan is talking about how he told his guys to get out fast in the first 800 and then he told Nico, “after that first left turn you are going to have to GO” he had to had be in y the 4:30s for the 1st mile. “You’re going to wreck people but you’ll be fine”