Chinese surveillance video supposedly shows 1 maskless jogger infecting 33 people with Covid-19 in park

Must be a real mouthbreather then!

I got it at relatively big (about 10k finishers) race a few months ago. Outdoor transmission is real, especially with everyone breathing heavy and not wearing masks.

The study is extremely flawed to the point of being CCP propaganda to bolster the CCP's zero COVID policies in the face of massive protests. The study does not establish that the patient zero actually infected the other people in the park. The study vaguely mentions that the infections were confirmed to be from the patient zero by genome sequencing, but does not provide any data showing that they did the entire genome sequence for patient zero and each infected persons and found them to be identical. Also, the premise that patient zero was infected at the time he went jogging is based on a presumption that he was infected on an airplane flight. But that infection was claimed to have occurred when patient zero flew on a flight after three people tested positive on a prior flight. That presumes that a COVID cloud lingered on the plane for hours, which is a dubious claim. So, the study fails to establish that patient zero was infected when he ran through the park and fails to show that he passed the virus to the other people in the park instead of them getting infected in other places. The study basically stakes its conclusion on the false premise that the Chinese surveillance system never misses transmission of the virus.

Can they be sure that all were infected by this runner? I do believe that Omicron can spread with very limited interaction with someone, but not sure I'm buying that they know this runner did everyone dirty.

Any “science” that Chinese researchers put out is going to be heavily influenced by state media and Mr. Zero-Covid, Xi Jinping.

It’s garbage and not even worth looking at.

This kind of study is a disgrace to the scientific community.

The methodology employed couldn't have arrived at the conclusion that the jogger was the source of infection. You can tell this from the language they used. They said that they highly suspect the jogger was the source. What kind of academic paper just “suspect"? How much is there confidence? Still they more forward and spread their suspicion to support the harsh lockdown measures. This is propaganda.

It makes every angry and threat driven thread that I've made about people going out when sick at the risk of others fully justified.

I was right the whole time because of science.

How do you know you got it at the race? Did you not go anywhere else and spend any amount of time with others in an enclosed space?

And, that Chinese jogger in the park infecting all those people I'd complete BS. No way that is accurate based on what we know about Covid today.

You call republicans “fascist” but you want China-like Covid policies. Pure projection

I wish we were on better terms with China (not that we should be). There is going to be some good info about covid transmission coming out of their "CDC" given the extreme measures they have employed. I dont know if its good or bad news but they must be learning something. Covid transmits outside and inside. Contrary to what antivaxxer/flat earthers are saying. It just spread nearly as well usually.

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Others on this thread provide more details about why the "study" is garbage. But it is sufficient to know that it is purely propaganda put out by the Chinese government and hence, not worth the electrons is was written on.

Is this amount of surveillance for real? I really really really don't like the idea of Big Brother always looking over me.

I know we rail on China for propaganda, control, etc etc (and rightfully so), but I kinda think we could be just as bad (if not worse) - just more secretive and deceptive about it. Effective propaganda wouldn't be seen as propaganda at all. Effective surveillance wouldn't be seen as surveillance. You see where I am going with this...

Never wore a 'rona mask running, or outside, period, and when I did get rona... it was from my kid. She was "sick" a day, I didn't even get tested (not playing into their system). There are 1001 things you can do for better health than wear a g.d. mask * anywhere *, let alone outside.

#NotMasking #StopTesting #LongHoller

Does the MD after Bob Morris's name stand for Mega Dummy? How the hell did this guy get to be a doctor?

The problem in China is not that they have implemented zero-covid poorly, it's that they implemented it perfectly.

Lets keep in mind this zero-covid elimination approach is exactly what people like bigmig19 and Precious Roy wanted to do here, until about 20 minutes ago

China's zero covid policy goes way beyond what is necessary to stop the virus. China used its zero covid policy to expand its surveillance state and to regain control over a population that was starting to enjoy more freedom of expression and movement than the CCP wanted. New Zealand, Australia, S. Korea, Finland, Iceland, etc. are much better examples of workable zero covid policies. And for those who are in the let it rip camp, it is genuinely dishonest to be wagging fingers at zero covid policies when the failure of so many countries to effectively contain covid initially and then to allow it to rage out of control made it extremely difficult for zero covid policies to fully succeed. If everyone adopted effective zero covid policies from the get go, we could have been able to stop covid entirely and save millions of lives and while having only a fraction of the shut downs and restrictions.

I find the whole thing dubious. Having the sequencing available would in theory shed a lot of light on the situation. In fact, it could go along way toward proving the paper to be accurate. Without the actual sequencing data though, I'm skeptical and given that its China, I'd be skeptical of the data even if it was provided. And that is very sad because there are many fine scientists in China. But we need verifiable data and probably more examples of this happening. I mean, if it happened here, why hasn't it happened elsewhere? Or has it and we just don't realize it?

Sorry, but no way, Precious.... extreme hubris on your part. You're dangerous, imo. It's people like you who believe that man can be "perfected". It's been tried before, but I'm sure you and people like you are the ones to finally succeed!

April, 2021:

PITTSBURGH — When you’re out and about in the city, you can see plenty of people abiding by the state mandate of universal masking, even when outdoors. Infectious disease expert Dr. Amesh Adalja feels wearing a mask when outdoors could soon be a thing of the past.

“The public health guidance has to be based on science, and science is telling us that outbreaks in outdoor settings and transmission in outdoor settings is extremely rare,” Adalja said. “Running, jogging, walking down the street and transiently passing by somebody, there’s no benefit in my mind to wearing a face covering in those situations.”

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Infectious disease expert expects health agencies to relax outdoor mask guidelines

A local infections disease doctor is calling for an end to the state’s outdoor mask mandate.

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