According to the Running Effect's Instagram, their episode featuring Shelby Houlihan will be featured at The Running Event in Austin, Texas. I can't be the only one that thinks this is incredibly shortsighted to feature a sympathetic podcast episode with a convicted doper?
I truly do not understand why an event like this would choose to promote her. Even if they believe she is clean, they have so much more to lose by promoting the episode than not promoting it.
Could you imagine if they tried to feature a podcast episode that was sympathetic to Alberto Salazar? It's one thing to believe Shelby, its another thing to continue giving her and other sympathizers a platform. She is a convicted doper. End of story.
Shelby and I both have received multiple messages over the past few months saying, "I didn't use to believe you, but after listening, I do now."
As in, for real? A friendly interview with the banned doper, where no new facts were given, no evidence presented, made people change their mind and all of sudden believe that INRS + AIU + WA + CAS + SFT all were wrong? Well let's hope that here, "multiple" < 4.
I truly do not understand why an event like this would choose to promote her. Even if they believe she is clean, they have so much more to lose by promoting the episode than not promoting it.
Let's hope they will use the actual facts to tear Houlihan's "arguments" apart.
So tired at the "I'm not the kind of person who does this" defense. Lauren Johnson is doing the exact same thing with the Huntington scandal.
It reminds me off a moment in the first season of that "Serial" podcast NPR did, about the man convicted for muder on shaky evidence.
Sarah Koenig (host) said something to the effect of "you seem like such a nice person" to Adnan Masud Syed (convicted murderer). Syed paused and responded something to the effect of "I wish everyone thought I was a terrible person but they knew I didn't do this". Turns out, Syed didn't do it.
Contrast that to SH and LJ. All they have to defend themselves is "I'm not the kind of person who would do this". That's all they have, becuase the objective evidence says otherwise. Makes me wonder, are they really trying to convince themselves? Are they in denial that they really are the kind of person who would do this?
I think so.
LJ still has a long path to walk on the road to justice, but SH is going to wake up one day and realize it's all over. Her career is gone, her reputation is gone, and she is the kind of person that would do this. Everyone else has moved on.
This is who she is. And there is nothing she can do to change that now.
So tired at the "I'm not the kind of person who does this" defense. Lauren Johnson is doing the exact same thing with the Huntington scandal.
It reminds me off a moment in the first season of that "Serial" podcast NPR did, about the man convicted for muder on shaky evidence.
Sarah Koenig (host) said something to the effect of "you seem like such a nice person" to Adnan Masud Syed (convicted murderer). Syed paused and responded something to the effect of "I wish everyone thought I was a terrible person but they knew I didn't do this". Turns out, Syed didn't do it.
Contrast that to SH and LJ. All they have to defend themselves is "I'm not the kind of person who would do this". That's all they have, becuase the objective evidence says otherwise. Makes me wonder, are they really trying to convince themselves? Are they in denial that they really are the kind of person who would do this?
I think so.
LJ still has a long path to walk on the road to justice, but SH is going to wake up one day and realize it's all over. Her career is gone, her reputation is gone, and she is the kind of person that would do this. Everyone else has moved on.
This is who she is. And there is nothing she can do to change that now.
Yes! RE: serial, the quote from Adnan was more along the lines of "I don't want you to think I didn't do it because I'm a nice person. I want you to think I didn't do it because that's what the evidence says."
This podcast was sad. A sixteen year old boy was exploited by a 30 year old woman and her team, duped into believing she was his friend (hi, high school kids--there is NO scenario in which an adult not related to you is your friend. none.) and now is throwing the weight of a podcast he worked hard to cultivate behind such an obvious cheater and liar. Shelby is such a disgrace.
He's going to realize soon how he was used by her and her team. She could have gone anywhere, but she chose him a kid who would ask leading softball questions.
According to the Running Effect's Instagram, their episode featuring Shelby Houlihan will be featured at The Running Event in Austin, Texas. I can't be the only one that thinks this is incredibly shortsighted to feature a sympathetic podcast episode with a convicted doper?
What a bunch of drivel and lies on the Instagram page. Mounting evidence of her innocence? There was none. She crafted a ridiculous story and had no evidence to back it up, as her excuse to try to get away with this. This is more in line with a paid promotion piece for SH. It's pathetic. And of course comments are disabled on the Instagram post so they can't be called out for these lies.
The IG page allows comments, but deletes all comments that are anything but 100% supportive to create a false narrative that Shelby is widely believed and this a victim.
The IG page allows comments, but deletes all comments that are anything but 100% supportive to create a false narrative that Shelby is widely believed and this a victim.
He's just a teenager. He doesn't realize the damage he's caused to the sport he loves because he was manipulated by Shelby.
He's a teenage high school kid who's chasing clout. He may be naive, but he's certainly intentional about this. Rather than patiently network and work his way up in stature of guests, he's chosen to grab the biggest thing on offer that comes with huge controversy and low real value. He thinks it will elevate his brand's stature riding the Shelbo coattails and it's becoming his only trick. He's effectively told his target audience that he's not to be taken seriously and he can't unring that bell, it will take a really long time to rehab his brand's reputation. He's clearly hoping this will open the door to access more big names with Nike, and maybe that works out for him. More likely, he's established himself as a foil for disgraced big names to hit on their rehab tours. Has even Citius had Shelby on since her sanction was finalized? They're also fanboy softball media and they famously take Nike money. The Running Effect always had a hint of slime to it and this just magnifies that implication.
He's a teenage high school kid who's chasing clout. He may be naive, but he's certainly intentional about this. Rather than patiently network and work his way up in stature of guests, he's chosen to grab the biggest thing on offer that comes with huge controversy and low real value. He thinks it will elevate his brand's stature riding the Shelbo coattails and it's becoming his only trick. He's effectively told his target audience that he's not to be taken seriously and he can't unring that bell, it will take a really long time to rehab his brand's reputation. He's clearly hoping this will open the door to access more big names with Nike, and maybe that works out for him. More likely, he's established himself as a foil for disgraced big names to hit on their rehab tours. Has even Citius had Shelby on since her sanction was finalized? They're also fanboy softball media and they famously take Nike money. The Running Effect always had a hint of slime to it and this just magnifies that implication.
I agree with everything you said and runners who care about clean sport should not go on his podcast.
But I still think he lacks the judgement--when you're young and someone you idolize approaches you and wants an interview it's easy to become a golden retriever and jump all over it. It's only when you're older and have experience that you realize what it could really mean.
It really bothers me he refers to her as a "friend". That makes me think she has him hook line. Adults just aren't friends with kids, but sometimes kids think they can be friends with adults and it makes them feel mature.
Haha. Follow your local high school team. That’s real. BTC and everything Nike throws out is fake garbage. It’s all about money and she got caught. They all cheat though. It’s the only way they can compete with the cheating East Africans.
He's a teenage high school kid who's chasing clout. He may be naive, but he's certainly intentional about this. Rather than patiently network and work his way up in stature of guests, he's chosen to grab the biggest thing on offer that comes with huge controversy and low real value. He thinks it will elevate his brand's stature riding the Shelbo coattails and it's becoming his only trick. He's effectively told his target audience that he's not to be taken seriously and he can't unring that bell, it will take a really long time to rehab his brand's reputation. He's clearly hoping this will open the door to access more big names with Nike, and maybe that works out for him. More likely, he's established himself as a foil for disgraced big names to hit on their rehab tours. Has even Citius had Shelby on since her sanction was finalized? They're also fanboy softball media and they famously take Nike money. The Running Effect always had a hint of slime to it and this just magnifies that implication.
I agree with everything you said and runners who care about clean sport should not go on his podcast.
But I still think he lacks the judgement--when you're young and someone you idolize approaches you and wants an interview it's easy to become a golden retriever and jump all over it. It's only when you're older and have experience that you realize what it could really mean.
It really bothers me he refers to her as a "friend". That makes me think she has him hook line. Adults just aren't friends with kids, but sometimes kids think they can be friends with adults and it makes them feel mature.
I don't disagree, though to my perspective he cares far more about himself and his brand's clout than he does about the sport. His biggest concern about the sport is not its health (nor actual justice) but his place in it, as in climbing a ladder for stature that his own ability won't permit. Which betrays the teenage narcissism that you explain better than I. It is funny yet sad that he terms her a "friend," because we all know that as soon as the suspension is over and she's back as a competitor and getting calls from bigger media outlets or else is moving on to post-running employment, he'll never hear from her again.
I wonder if he misinterpreted why the podcast was being featured, and maybe he believed it was being put up for an award when in reality there was another purpose?
Shelby's gotten a lot of rope she doesn't deserve, but it would be incredibly strange to feature the podcast at this event.
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