Link to her instagram at the bottom. The woman has ruined her face and comes across as mentally ill in the things she posts. She's not really THAT old, nor did she seem particularly eccentric when she was younger. She did things to get attention, but I see that more as strategic marketing than craziness. Wth is up with her?
Casual Observer78 wrote:
Link to her instagram at the bottom. The woman has ruined her face and comes across as mentally ill in the things she posts. She's not really THAT old, nor did she seem particularly eccentric when she was younger. She did things to get attention, but I see that more as strategic marketing than craziness. Wth is up with her?
She is mid60s. You thought it was marketing. But it was also her being eccentric...
Oh God, lol. Don't do drugs kids.
Most celebrities are narcissists. They will do anything to keep any form of the spotlight on them and also grasp at straws for their glory days. In this light, behaviors from Madonna, Kanye, Etc make much more sense.
"I'm 30. Well, in November I'll be 30."
The spotlight is addicting for those that have the personality to even think of going into entertainment. Once they get a taste of it, they can't let it go. It's hard to name many that have faded away quietly and with grace.
Look at the Boomer rockers... they are STILL at it! You have the Stone still singing, at 70+ years old about how they can't get satisfaction. Bob Dylan releasing books, Billy Joel is touring with Stevie Nicks.. they refuse to get off the stage.
If you put your meaning and purpose in ephemeral physical beauty and sex appeal, you die a million deaths before they finally plant you.
NotPC wrote:
The spotlight is addicting for those that have the personality to even think of going into entertainment. Once they get a taste of it, they can't let it go. It's hard to name many that have faded away quietly and with grace.
Look at the Boomer rockers... they are STILL at it! You have the Stone still singing, at 70+ years old about how they can't get satisfaction. Bob Dylan releasing books, Billy Joel is touring with Stevie Nicks.. they refuse to get off the stage.
But IMO a celebrity posting photos, footage and content about herself playing dress up and looking and acting weird on social media for attention like Madonna is doing, and has done for years, is very different to performing artists still appearing on stage and writers and lyricists releasing books.
Lots of older people in the arts and other fields continue to do great work and contribute to society in their senior years.
You really think stage, film and TV performers like Maggie Smith, Judie Dench, Meryl Streep, Helen Mirren, Emma Thompson, Glenn Close, Anthony Hopkins, Patrick Stewart, Ben Kingsley, Ian McKellen, Jack Nicholson, Morgan Freeman, Robert DeNiro, Liam Neeson, Frank Langella, Jeremy Irons, Jeff Bridges, Donald Sutherland, Sam Elliott, Kevin Costner, Colin Firth, Tommy Lee Jones, Mark Harmon, Sam Neill, Stellan Skarsgård, Denzel Washington, Clint Eastwood, Christopher Plummer, Michael Gambon should have to "get off the stage" coz they're long in the tooth?
Why shouldn't boomer musicians still play if they're still capable of putting on a good show and their fans are still willing to buy tickets? It's not like they're keeping younger acts off the the stage.
In fact, older musicians often appear with and give a leg up to younger ones. Stevie Nicks has toured and performed with Harry Styles a bunch of times. Nicks' collaboration with Styles has really helped the younger artist gain credibility amongst those in the music and entertainment industry likely to discount him as a has-been lightweight who's aged out of his boy band phase. Nicks has also helped Styles expand his audiences and fan base considerably beyond the erstwhile teenyboppers who were into New Direction.
In his dotage, Bryan Ferry, now 77, has always made a point of having excellent usually younger women artists open for him, in part to give them more exposure. Judith Owen, now 53; LP (Laura Pergolizzi), now 41; Sophie Auster, now 35, have all opened for Ferry on his tours in the past 7-8 years. Plus, Ferry always has musicians, vocalists and tech people of a wide variety of ages in his touring and recording bands. Even as he's reached and passed pension age, Ferry has introduced the world to some truly amazing young musicians, some of them still in or barely teens. Guitarist Oliver Thompson was 17 when Ferry gave him a spot on stage.
I recently saw Ferry and his band Roxy Music on their 50th anniversary tour in NYC and London - and they were great. Plus, the old geezers selected the much younger rocker St Vincent, age 40, and her very young band and backup singers as their USA opening act.
Fame, isolation, jealousy, too much money, etc. This is why people shouldn't want fame and fortune.
Hollywood is full of crazies while the tabloids and attention exacerbates the mental illness and according behavior.
Good points.
Let me add that Tony Bennett collaborating with Lady Gaga was great for her career.
Never thought she was attractive and now she is simply butt ugly and screaming for attention
She's always been vain. Now she's a hasbeen. It's far easier to be vain when you're actually relevant. She secretly wishes Pete Davidson would want to date her now.
Actors are a bit different since you do need old people to portray old people in movies. An actor goes from leading man to playing the dad of the leading man, from love interest to mother of the young hottie. (That has to be a rude awakening when you are asked to read for the mother of ____ instead of the staring role.)
In music you become a nostalgia act, and that is pathetic and sad. Nostalgia is the lowest form of appreciation of music. People listen to you not because you are good, or talented, or meaningful. It's because they remember having a good time in HS listening to your tape in their car.
She's been lost ever since that bedrock of stability, Dennis Rodman, dumped her.
Penultimate Lap wrote:
She's been lost ever since that bedrock of stability, Dennis Rodman, dumped her.
One could say that she never rebounded from that.
I was never a Madonna fan. I always resented how when MTV controlled a huge slice of popular culture, she occupied a huge piece of that.
If being cool/relevant was the sole objective, she did a good job through her 40s—marrying British Tarantino wannabe Guy Ritchie, staying in great MILF shape, being revered by the next gen of pop tarts, releasing a few hits, etc.
A few years ago she was on stage with Drake, and jumped him with a deep kiss—he acted with revulsion. Point being that the old high jinx didn’t work anymore.
There is a much bigger market for a 45 yo woman that has kept it together than for a 60 yo.
I've been a fan over the years. Thought she was hot as hell back in the 80s.
She doesn't even look like the same person. Looks like an alien to me.
But if she's happy, whatever.
Casual Observer78 wrote:
Link to her instagram at the bottom. The woman has ruined her face and comes across as mentally ill in the things she posts. She's not really THAT old, nor did she seem particularly eccentric when she was younger. She did things to get attention, but I see that more as strategic marketing than craziness. Wth is up with her?
She was always eccentric. It just seems less eccentric now because half the country thinks having parades in ass-less chaps and throwing dildos to the children in the crowd is normal behavior.
Being a sex symbol who's surrounded by sycophants for 40 years has a way of altering one's opinion of themselves.
If Madonna had any idea how awful she looks she wouldn't be posting these things.
Like a anorexic who can't see how skinny they are Madonna cannot accept that she's old.
Casual Observer78 wrote:
wtf is up with Madonna?
Young crazy person, turns into old crazy person. What's hard to understand?