Coaches cant lie in recruiting anymore and its hilarious. Thanks Transfer portal

Wow! You have no clue. That’s not why coaches dislike the portal. Most coaches that I’ve spoken dislike the portal because kids tend to make irrational decisions after they are told hard truths or held accountable. I’m fine with the portal. The ones that would tend to leave are usually the ones that we hope going. I only wish I could put more on the portal myself.

hold up. are coaches in favor of or against the portal. cant really tell from this post.

I'm a coach. I like the transfer portal. It gives the kids a little bit of control if they're unhappy. I also don't lie to my recruits so they don't tend to leave.

Another angle though (and I am pro athletes having more freedom to move) is that they think they were promised something that they were not promised. I have a friend whose son is playing D1 football. I talked to the dad ; the son was considering transferring. The son said he was not getting playing time (he is a freshman). The dad reminded the kid that the coach promised him an opportunity to compete for playing time and that the best players would play. The kid thought he was promised playing time.

Sometimes the kids just think they are better than they really are. In a sport that is less subjective (XC/track) it should be pretty clear who the fastest 7 are. It can be harder in something like a team sport where more plays into that simply who can run fastest.

Coaches love the portal when they get a player out of it; they hate it when they lose a player to it.

I suspect that coaches are not too upset when a kid transfers. The kid probably was not going to contribute a lot anyway or at least not immediately. So that kid can be replaced with a new recruit who might or a transfer in who might. Speaking very generally here. I suspect college football coaches would love to keep the 4 star back up QB forever.

young adults appear to be the most irrational people on the planet. its a time of life when people seem to be the most irrational, the most self centered, least responsible.

when faced with hard difficulties they will tell themselves that they were lied to, mislead, or question the leadership etc.. so for xc runners they will say the coach doesn't know how to train runners, or that they can't motivate, or that they race too much, or that they race too little, the school "sucks" or whatever else... I guarantee whatever they say it will NOT be "I went there but I wasn't a good enough student/runner to succeed in that program." they will not own it........... until they're 30.

Theroster spots amd scholarships didn't change which the OP sort of insinuates. It is the same supply of athletes also. So some more kids are transferring but it just creates a bit more administrative work for everyone.

It’s easy to tell when a coach is upset that a kid transfers. Just look at their times and placements and where they were projected to be in the program they left.

I neither love it nor hate it. I have no problem with an unhappy kid transferring. No school or program is for everyone. Some kids think they want to do what’s necessary to be great until they realize how difficult that can be. I have more respect for those kids moving on than for unhappy kids staying and becoming a negative in the program.
it really has not impacted my program that much. I’ve always given kids a release if they didnt want to stay in my program. I honestly don’t understand the rationale for not giving a release back in the pre portal days.
My only issue with it is that it gives a kid an easy out instead of learning a life lesson on the importance of going through struggle. A weak kid won’t help my program but that young person has just made it easier to quit throughout life. While that doesn’t really hurt my program, it does not teach any life lessons when that is exactly what we are supposed to do. The problem is that most administrators and the ncaa don’t care at all about the kids.

Must be fun running in your program.

LOL

How many coaches actually lie, and how many parents and kids hear what they want to hear? I don't see where any coach would benefit from straight up lying. Running is a pretty straight up sport, your team ran fast or it didn't. Your team did X or it didn't.

I was a pretty bad runner on a small school team, so maybe it's different at the top. No coach on that level is talking about post collegiate shoe contracts or Olympics/WCs. We were all just lucky to get some scholarship money and be able to run in college. Maybe it's different at the very very top.

I actually think it’s very fun. You may be clueless but there are always a few that make it less fun for the rest. Those deservedly should be put on the portal. The fact that you don’t get that probably indicates that if you are on a team then you are one of those or if you were on a team then you were one of those that made everyone else’s experience worse.

I think it's very easy for people to convince themselves how great they are and not realize their own weaknesses. The fact you don't get that is a sign you are one of those people.

“…it gives a kid an easy out instead of learning a life lesson on the importance of going through struggle. A weak kid won’t help my program but that young person has just made it easier to quit throughout life. While that doesn’t really hurt my program, it does not teach any life lessons when that is exactly what we are supposed to do.”

This ^

Thinking a bit more about it, the two areas where I think a kid could reasonably think they were mislead are:

1) It’s easy for me to imagine a coach recruiting someone they sincerely think is the future of the program and saying things they shouldn’t. The kid gets on campus and is 13th on the team after the first couple of races and is upset they get left at home for prenats.

2) Losing a scholarship at any point at a school they wouldn’t have picked without the scholarship, especially an expensive one.

Maybe the don't tend to get as unhappy in the first place since you don't lie to them.

Good for you.

Yea but I’m guessing the coach wasn’t really clear. It’s pretty clear who is good enough to play. There are a few Rudy stories where hard work plus no talent works. But it doesn’t matter, if after a year a kid spending all that time at practice and meetings etc to just sit on bench- he should transfer wtf? What a waste of a young life to sit on the bench for 4 years

Wait, you recruited these problem children. Am I missing something?