She was super hot in the 90’s and seemed nice. But the exercise induced asthma line was known the and blatant cheating. It probably means other things were being done. Was she just blinding following the path of success without a moral compass? Probably. She has great options and is probably very well off ,so they should take back the offer and leave it at that.
This is exactly why, I, as a New Yorker, and original member of the NYRRC when they had 100 members in 1969, has stayed clear of their runs and events for virtually four decades. It IS a sham "charity" organization. They have been very fortunate that they had those thousands of volunteers all those years to say the very least.
So we're supposed to take YOUR word for this? Make documentation available to us all, or else STFU! Whether it's true or not can't be established, unless you're willing to take affidavits from some of those high school-aged kids about what those little pills did, not that it's enough to prove anything, and that ain't gonna happen.
By the way, Not fair, not clean ran a 3-minute mile, because I said so. It has to be true, right? I mean, I posted it here, so I expect many readers to believe it is true.
Wow. You seem to be very defensive. Not fair, not clean’s story is an example of what goes on out there. You are either defending yourself or very naive. Whatever those pills were it’s an example of coaches using methods other than training and diet to get their athletes to perform better. Nena had such a coach or maybe two. She got busted! And that is a fact
So we're supposed to take YOUR word for this? Make documentation available to us all, or else STFU! Whether it's true or not can't be established, unless you're willing to take affidavits from some of those high school-aged kids about what those little pills did, not that it's enough to prove anything, and that ain't gonna happen.
By the way, Not fair, not clean ran a 3-minute mile, because I said so. It has to be true, right? I mean, I posted it here, so I expect many readers to believe it is true.
Sorry honey, I could care less if you believe my story. I have no reason to make up a not very exciting story from over 30 yrs ago. And I have no reason to prove anything to you, so STFU as you so elegantly stated. I have no clue what those pills were, maybe they were just bicarbonate. That my love was not the main point of my post. Sorry you missed the main message. Chill and get a life
So we're supposed to take YOUR word for this? Make documentation available to us all, or else STFU! Whether it's true or not can't be established, unless you're willing to take affidavits from some of those high school-aged kids about what those little pills did, not that it's enough to prove anything, and that ain't gonna happen.
By the way, Not fair, not clean ran a 3-minute mile, because I said so. It has to be true, right? I mean, I posted it here, so I expect many readers to believe it is true.
Sorry honey, I could care less if you believe my story. I have no reason to make up a not very exciting story from over 30 yrs ago. And I have no reason to prove anything to you, so STFU as you so elegantly stated. I have no clue what those pills were, maybe they were just bicarbonate. That my love was not the main point of my post. Sorry you missed the main message. Chill and get a life
Sodium bicarbonate definitely has been shown in some studies to be helpful over 800 M though it causes lots of stomach distress. I know a lot of people that have experimented with it.
There is no reason to suspect it was anything else.
Sorry honey, I could care less if you believe my story. I have no reason to make up a not very exciting story from over 30 yrs ago. And I have no reason to prove anything to you, so STFU as you so elegantly stated. I have no clue what those pills were, maybe they were just bicarbonate. That my love was not the main point of my post. Sorry you missed the main message. Chill and get a life
Sodium bicarbonate definitely has been shown in some studies to be helpful over 800 M though it causes lots of stomach distress. I know a lot of people that have experimented with it.
There is no reason to suspect it was anything else.
You weren’t there so have no idea. Could have been anything not just bicarbonate
This is exactly why, I, as a New Yorker, and original member of the NYRRC when they had 100 members in 1969, has stayed clear of their runs and events for virtually four decades. It IS a sham "charity" organization. They have been very fortunate that they had those thousands of volunteers all those years to say the very least.
except for, you, putting on monthly 8,000-person, well-organized, highly competitive road races for decades yeah I guess they are a miserable low down cheating organization.
I mean seriously. They have a great product and people are voting their feet. Where else can you get such great depth and have the closest thing to a league that I'm aware of?
Rojo - I think this is 100% fair and deserves examination, especially given that she tried the ridiculous canard ‘my dr prescribed it.’
In our sport, doping is a cardinal sin. If you have broken that rule, it is imperative that you have completely atoned before you can be part of the establishment. To atone, you must renounce the behavior that aggrieves the community.
People like her who prevaricate about the circumstances of their use are not trustworthy and do not belong in positions like Chairman of NYRR. Sudafed was not an unknown quantity in 1996. Throughout the 90s there was a big problem with NHL players abusing it. It was widely known to provide performance enhancement.
At its core, doping is an integrity issue. Those who shade the truth and use artifice to distance themselves from overt acts like doping should not be forgiven and welcomed back into the fold, let alone be put in positions of authority and/or influence.
Runners who have doped in their past should be open and honest about it. It’s the only way to bring sunlight and disinfectant in where it is desperately needed in out sport.
Good point, Hayduke. The exercise induced asthma scam was pretty widespread in the 90s.
I remember doing numerous Olympic distance triathlons in that era with fully a third to a half of the front-line starters using ß2-agonists inhalers right up until the gun went off.
Without a doubt. But they either have to change that rule, or pick someone else. don’t forget to get busted for the ingredients in cold medicine you have to have ungodly amounts in your system, way more than the recommended dosage. You would have to get a food truck burrito level of cold medicine to test positive
She was super hot in the 90’s and seemed nice. But the exercise induced asthma line was known the and blatant cheating. It probably means other things were being done. Was she just blinding following the path of success without a moral compass? Probably. She has great options and is probably very well off ,so they should take back the offer and leave it at that.
My guess is NYRR won't do anything. She is their diversity victory along with their new CEO. NYRR has become another woke/elitist organization now. When confronted with lies, they simply won't comment.
I knew someone who was very good friends with her in HS. He said that she was a terrific person. Only great things to say about her.
Being a nice person has nothing to do with being a drug cheat. I am sure Burrito Girl is nice too.
^This. Who cares if she's NICE? Is this grammar school? Lynch's drug ban was obviously swept under the rug to ensure that their diversity quota was met on the board. Thankful for the NY Times article so the public can see the hypocrisy at NYRR, as they all live the high and mighty life on those crazy salaries that upper mgt of a ahem "non-profit" org get.
Well said, dmb. The exercised induced asthma scam of the 90s was widespread. Cheating is cheating.
Lynch should address this article and acknowledge her ban and so should NYRR. Not saying anything will make this escalate and kill their already fragile reputation. The fact that this was all hidden really doesn't look good for any of them. I for one am happy that the public was made aware of this hypocrisy at NYRR through NYT and I hope the news continues to spread. Claiming they have a zero tolerance policy yet elect the CHAIR of the board who had a drug ban - inexcusable.
Being a nice person has nothing to do with being a drug cheat. I am sure Burrito Girl is nice too.
^This. Who cares if she's NICE? Is this grammar school? Lynch's drug ban was obviously swept under the rug to ensure that their diversity quota was met on the board. Thankful for the NY Times article so the public can see the hypocrisy at NYRR, as they all live the high and mighty life on those crazy salaries that upper mgt of a ahem "non-profit" org get.
I understand your concern with her drug ban but diversity quota? You think she was given the job because of her race or sex?
She's a bright accomplished runner at every level. She knows NYC running inside and out and can relate to runners on every level. She's a near perfect candidate with the drug ban being the only blemish.
Class and being nice has nothing to do with it. She’s a doper and got a ban and now elected as Chair of an organization claiming they have a zero tolerance policy. They’re all a joke. Bunch of hypocrites