Two more Kenyan athletes suspended for alleged doping offence

Hardly have to Google it. It was on the BBC news home page. Just about the only time Athletics ever makes it there these days, other than when a 40 year old Kenyan smashes his world record again.

It hardly needs googling when it is a weekly if not daily occurrence.

Actually, it's just a yawn. Same old, same old.

In terms of who has been caught, I supect we are talking about just the proverbial tip of the iceberg...

Indeed. Even the good old drug cheat apologists have given up defending all these dopers; now they just delete 20 - 30% of the posts here (see previous page).

The logical thing to do now is to simply ban Kenya for a solid 5 years or so. Then turn the testing blowtorch onto countries such as Ethiopia and Uganda.

However, if the IAAF is not going to ban Kenya then are not race organizers entitled to ban athletes competing from certain nations? If the organizers of a big race such as the London marathon simply stepped up and effectively banned having any elite athletes from Kenya in the race because of the obvious doping issue going on, then the organizers of other big races and meets could well follow suit. If the sport's governing bodies are effectively doing nothing then the race organizers could at least try to control the problem of doping athletes competing.

The cheaters get to keep it all, unless their doping resulted in a DQ (see the list). And even then, it can be hard to retrieve the money of course.

But for a DQ to happen, they need to get caught almost directly at the race or in its preparation, before a suspension is handed out (Jeptoo in Chicago 2014), which rarely happens.

Alternatively, if they get banned because of an ABP violation, then they can get more DQs over a longer period, because that typically includes more than one violation until the AIU acts (Kiptum, including his WR).

Hilarious to watch you loons pretend to even be aware of Ibrahim Mukunga Wachira and Kenneth Kiprop Renju. Truth is, you've never heard of them and couldn't identify them in a lineup of three. Literal nobodies.

Only Lawrence Cherono was worth discuss. The rest are just evidence of Kenya mopping up its sub-elite levels before all other countries have even started with their elites.

This is getting borderline comical. Remember how many vilified “Stable Master” for his statements a couple years ago? Looks like he was correct.

“Sub-elites”…right in cue with the rhetoric. Who is worse:

American sprinters vs

moroccan middle/distance vs

Kenya middle/distance?

Banned for doping
1) Olympic champ + 3x World champ Kiprop, last decade's fastest 1500 m runner
2) Olympic champ + London marathon winner Sumgong
3) 3x Boston (one DQ) + 2x Chicago marathon (one DQ) winner Jeptoo
4) Boston + Chicago marathon winner Cherono
5) London + Amsterdam marathon winner D. Wanjiru
6) Boston marathon winner Kipyokei
7) Previous half marathon world record holder Kiptum (DQ)
8) Third fastest half marathon runner Kisorio (when caught in 2012)
9) 26:57 + 58:35 runner Renju, previously ranked 2nd in road running
10) 2x Seoul marathon winner in 2:05:13 + 2:05:37 Loyanae (course record in 2013)
Banned for whereabouts failures (and tampering in case of Kipsang)
11) Marathon world record holder, 2x London + Berlin + New York + Tokyo marathon winner Kipsang
12) World champ E. Manangoi
13) 59:22 + 2:05 runner Gachaga
Honorable mentions
14) 3000 m steeple world record holder and Olympic champ Jebet, Bahraini-turned Kenyan
15) Olympic silver medalist Kirwa, Bahraini-turned Kenyan

Hilarious to watch you prove Casual Observer exactly right and more. (he forgot to leave out the 'every Kenyan doper caught means 100 Americans and Brit dopers haven't been caught').

The Kenyan national 10000m champion and the Boston marathon winner are nobodies? And how do you know it was AK that caught them? Pretty unlikely if they are 'nobodies' as we know that AK doesn't even test Olympic qualifiers 3 times.

Good job, El K!

Just as you predicted. Nice to be proven right.

The increasing farce that is Kenyan running is proof that doping doesn't need to be state-sponsored to be systemic.

Give Willis his gold... now.

Like clockwork with the doping apologism. 58:35 is a nobody now? Kiprop was sub-elite? Elijah Manangoi? Sumgong? Wilson Kipsang? Former WR holder Kiptum?

I want to remind that my position is "EPO doesn't work fior athletes with proper training if they live in altitude", Kenyans or Ethiopians or Ugandans or Europeans.

I always explained the assumption of steroids is another thing, and all the athletes caught after July took steroids, not EPO.

It's obvious there is a problem of doping in Kenya, but this doesn't regard EPO, mostly steroids and whereabouts.

All it shows is that EPO is not the only drug that distance runners will turn to. You also happen to be amongst the very few who believe it doesn't aid altitude-trained athletes - even though altitude-trained athletes are still using it - and running faster than when EPO was not available.

The organizers of an Italian half-marathon tried that a couple of years ago, and there was worldwide woke outrage at the 'racism' of it.

Perhaps the big marathons could afford to have the elite Kenyans independently blood tested several times in the lead up to the marathon? Perhaps make a requirement that they stay in London, Berlin, Boston for at least 1 month before the race so they can be tested. Can't see it ever happening though. Kenyan athletes have to be tested 3 times in x months before major Games, but it doesn't apply to major marathons, which of course is one reason Kipchoge moved from the track.

As far as Coe taking back handers for keeping Kenya in athletics, I hope that's not the case, but he certainly does have a soft spot for them - which makes El K's pathalogical hatred of him all the more ridiculous. I think Coe has tried the carrot and the stick approach, making sure they improve their terrible testing standards in Kenya with the reward of not only not banning them, but rewarding them with major championships. It's worked to a degree - Kenyans are obviously getting busted now, but does it make much difference really? These guys have won their medals and prize money and can retire in relative wealth. Doping is clearly so rampant in Kenya that it's like trying to cut off the heads of Medusa. You're never going to get to a situation where the leading Kenyans are not all dopers. The only solution is to ban them, unfortunately.

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