Two more Kenyan athletes suspended for alleged doping offence

Should we ask that stitch-up Canova to come and explain for the 1000th time why doping in Kenya is just a big conspiracy and these are just the "sh$tty" runners because the best ones have no benefit from it?

I expect Astro to comment on this thread until it is 25 pages because he cares about doping so much…

LOL, yes. El K will soon come and explain how sub elite and hence irrelevant they are, and that now all bad apples are caught. Then the other drug cheat apologist will come and explain that 58:35 is slow, and that the synthetic nandro and Superdrol were in the beef, and made them even slower, ergo proving that Epo does not work.

This will be fun.

Surely they have caught all the bad apples now?

So you say there is doping in professional international running? Shocking. In other news, the sun rises and set and dogs sometimes bite.

Nice piece about it at Athletics Illustrated :

Kenya and its athletes were once held in awe by everyone else in the world. They were studied by scientists to find out why they were better. Nothing. Maybe, high bunched calf muscles or a slightly longer lower leg but nothing else stood out. They were ordinary people, achieving extraordinary results. They won nearly everything.
The scientists found next to nothing and the Kenyans themselves said that it’s about hard work, eating well, and living at altitude. Observers agreed and found that the simple lifestyle required many, especially in the Rift Valley, to walk or run long distances to school, developing red blood cells at high altitudes for lifelong aerobic fitness. It is indeed a recipe for success. But one piece of the puzzle is missing: desperation.

Simply crazy that there is a thread up now where people here have been arguing for days that Kenyans are winning because of some genetic advantage.

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The flood of Kenyan doping continues to flow like the Tana River

Christopher Kelsall

The flood of Kenyan doping continues to flow like the Tana River, two more Kenyans provisionally suspended on Tuesday

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Astro, Armstronglivs and Coevett are all getting rather excited here. This is like Viagara for them.

Does Renju deserve a spot in the Kenyan Top Ten list of banned dopers?

This is what I have - I hope I haven't forgotten anyone:

Banned for doping
1) Olympic champ + 3x World champ Kiprop, last decade's fastest 1500 m runner
2) Olympic champ + London marathon winner Sumgong
3) 3x Boston (one DQ) + 2x Chicago marathon (one DQ) winner Jeptoo
4) Boston + Chicago marathon winner Cherono
5) London + Amsterdam marathon winner D. Wanjiru
6) Boston marathon winner Kipyokei
7) Previous half marathon world record holder Kiptum (DQ)
8) Third fastest half marathon runner Kisorio (when caught in 2012)
9) 26:57 + 58:35 runner Renju, previously ranked 2nd in road running
10) 2x Seoul marathon winner in 2:05:13 + 2:05:37 Loyanae (course record in 2013)

Banned for whereabouts failures (and tampering in case of Kipsang)
11) Marathon world record holder, 2x London + Berlin + New York + Tokyo marathon winner Kipsang
12) World champ E. Manangoi
13) 59:22 + 2:05 runner Gachaga

Honorable mentions
14) 3000 m steeple world record holder and Olympic champ Jebet, Bahraini-turned Kenyan
15) Olympic silver medalist Kirwa, Bahraini-turned Kenyan

Wilson Kipsang Kiprotich also won the bronze at the 2012 London Olympic marathon.

I have a theory that running barefoot 10 km everyday to school was a myth hiding something more devious. Thoughts ?

Thank you, yes. And there are a few more 2nd or 3rd places I could add to the above list.

And I forgot banned drug cheat Kipkemoi (26:52/59:01/2:05:44 runner, African champ) who deserves to be included imho.

You forgot the part about being led astray by European and American coaches, agents, managers.

The only excitement I detect is yours. A Kenyan doping bust is just another day.

What bothers me about these threads is the insinuation by some that any criticism of African runners is de facto evidence of racism on the part of the critics.

At what point will IAAF step up and ban Kenya? How much worse does it need to get?

At what point? I vote for now, but I bet: never.

Lord Coe with his murky deals and Nike and some such....

Viagara may also be just another day for you. I can see you popping your Viagara and googling Kenya doping on a daily basis.

We must ban the Russians!