Molly Seidel Update

Argghh...bones don't break from insufficient carbs, but from insufficient protein and saturated fat, especially over the course of years. As long as women continue avoiding healthy animal-based foods, we will continue to see this.

um, i mean, i think the well documented struggles she's had with eating disorders are the operative independent variable(s) here. not that she's vegetarian.

Sorry I don't care.

She did some great races. Looks like she might be done.

Bones break from eating disorders causing low estrogen causing decreased osteoblast production causing fragility and brittle bones. Simple as that.

This article is just one long press release put out by her agent. Not an ounce of journalism.

But I guess that is the state our sport.

She is no longer taking Adderall. “It makes me feel like **** in training,” she said. “It makes me not eat. I think the Adderall through this spring was kind of like sticking gum in the cracking dam of my mental health.” She is, however, still pursuing a TUE for using it during competition, in case she needs it again at some point in the future. But the pressure to get it in time for upcoming races is lifted.

Let's just stop this myth that Molly keeps telling about her TUE for Adderall still being in progress. It's been over half a year, WADA rules state that the USADA have a maximum of 21 days to make a decision and then you can appeal to WADA and if WADA accepts to look at it, a decision within in a max of 30 days. You don't have to be a math genius to see that all the deadlines have long passed, which means all the agencies rejected Molly's claim for Adderall.

Also this feels like a buildup to an announcement she got popped for doping.

"The rules werent clear," "I was trying to do it right and get a TUE," "I was dealing with mental health," "I was trying to get back where I was before injury"

All setting up a narrative for when it eventually dropped.

"A repeat MRI later in the summer showed the injury to her sacrum had been much worse than she originally knew—a full fracture—and explained her persistent pain."

So that is why in Mid July she ran an ultra under a fake name? That is what journalism should be asking.

This thread will be deleted soon. For some reason this site is scared to have any thread about this flash in the pan runner.

Also should the title be ‘Is Molly Siedel update’ ?

But you can totally talk about cheating at chess with anal inserts on this running site.

Bones also weaken for other reasons, so maybe we ought to hold off on diagnosing her from afar. Are you really concerned about her as a person, or is this just about running?

There are additional complicating factors as well:

tandfonline.com

Anabolic-Androgenic Steroid Use as a Complicating Factor in the Female Athlete Triad: Behavioral Implications for Sport Psychology

In 1992, recognizing a ubiquitous pattern of disordered eating, amenorrhea, and osteoporosis among young women participating in competitive sports, the American College of Sports Medicine (ACSM) in...

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Once again, I will state the following:

* she lived a quiet life and mostly devoid of social media through college. Then boom, 50,000 followers (needs citation with proper number)

* Developmentally immature (i.e. bumble rants and "calling out guys on planes")

* Her personality type and alcohol also dont mesh well at all. In fact, you could shift the lens toward what happens in the 2-3 days without alcohol and likely see a pattern in her outbursts.

She was overloaded with unexpected pressure, over exposed on social media, never had a full grip on how to act maturely in the first place and isnt able to handle alcohol in her lifestyle. It's a bad combination for her. Her psychological state can be evidenced in the Runner's World article where she is documented self cycling with the social media thing again.

My answer to this all along has been, "Molly, get off of social media. You were never ready for it. And stop drinking. You were never ready for that either."

She should:

1) Hire someone to do the social media part for her, but she should be hands free. Someone at Puma, not Izzy.

2) Also make a pact with herself to stop drinking regularly. She doesnt need to be a tee totaller. She should let go for 365 days or more though to get back on track for running.

The person Molly Seidel is at her core, underneath all these complex issues, is a wonderful person. But these overlaying complex issues cannot be resolved unless she let's go of certain things that are clouding her personal and athletic progress.

Other posters can downvote all they want like my previous posts. But that doesnt make the content above invalid.

she is just like me for real

I don't know anything about the complex issues in the article, but:

-"She and her coach, Jon Green, are tentatively targeting three races in the fall—a 5K, a 10K, and a half marathon—to use as benchmarks as she returns to marathoning, ideally in 2023 if all goes well."

-"She is no longer taking Adderall." "She is, however, still pursuing a TUE for using it during competition, in case she needs it again at some point in the future. But the pressure to get it in time for upcoming races is lifted." "Instead, she is taking Naltrexone, which Seidel describes as an anti-addictive medication to help her manage the addictive qualities of bulimia. There are no restrictions on its use by anti-doping authorities."

*Apologies for my lack of decorum. I did not think the "is" was appropriate in the title because the linked article provides an actual update on the athlete. I thought the "is" was reserved for threads seeking updates.

Yes protein and saturated fats are important but don't discount the important of carbohydrates. Carbohydrates are needed for a HEALTHY metabolism, bone health & brain health are part of that. “It’s particularly true in people who are, let’s say, good at things. You can have a high IQ and still be inattentive,” Yes! Low fuel, mainly low carb intake, combined with high stress (running,) & high brain usage is a dangerous combination. She's been living on a STRESS metabolism which can trick you into thinking you're healthy because cortisol & adrenaline make you feel good & can help you run fast sometimes but it doesn't end well. Carbs lower the stress.

It sounds like she's on the right track now. I hope so.

I don’t really give a shît about Seidel one way or the other, but I do care about agenda driven misinformation.

Imagine thinking you know exactly what a person needs you have never met and have no clue what is behind these "outbursts". Hate to break it to you bud but some people are like that regardless of alcohol and social media 🙄

Great post, thank you.