Why was Lauren Johnson kicked out of OTC?

I smell a coverup by the parties involved.

Letsrun seems to be deleting threads about this subject for some reason. It deserves it's own thread because it is unrelated to the Huntington allegations.

The ballad of Nick and Lauren continues

Interested to see what came out of OTC

I'm willing to give LetsRun some credit and hope that its just the mods being overzealous and deleting anything remotely related to Huntington that is not on the main thread.

NDAs are pretty powerful.

Well Pat Casey broke silence on twitter yesterday:

He seems perfectly willing to drop dimes on the Johnsons, I'm hoping David Woods or the JoBros reach out to him for a full statement. Aisha Leer voluntarily took to twitter about this, as well:

I wouldn’t expect much from the owners of this site. They completely let the Aden scandal go away with zero journalist type digging done. Look at the Pineda camp as well- pretty obvious things going on there. How about the poster dropping intel on the Ethiopian Federation last year? All not followed up on or pursued. The site relies on anonymous posters to break news or drop important info- nothing more.

They are pretty good at promoting conspiracy theories that profess BTC athletes innocence.

no offense to casey and leer, but why didnt they speak out prior to this? it seems all the pros know already knew about everything when the news finally drops.

Totally depends on what they knew and when they knew it. From Casey's tweet we don't know what Nick Johnson did at OTC. It would be interesting to hear, and maybe it will come out, but it could be unrelated to what happened at Huntington. Now if there was doping involved at OTC, that is very relevant. re: AP-Leer, she's not associated with the program and how would she know? She probably is just responding to the things we are.

I agree to some extent but our blame should firmly lie with the Johnson's. It's really hard to speak out as a pro on most subjects for fear of not having a contract renewed. This isn't a big money making sport for most athletes. Look at the way an NBA player can speak out on different issues. They're not replaceable and they have a strong players union. T&F is a completely different game.

She is married to will leer, who trained with OTC.

Couple of reasons. They could have signed an NDA. They could have not wanted to cause drama that would out their own career in jeopardy. Fear of some sort of retaliation. Plenty of reasonable reasons

Aisha herself was an OTC runner (2013/14 - 2016).

The simple explanation is these pro's had the feeling the Johnson's were shady, scummy people without any hard evidence. When you are going to make a serious accusation, you have to have some proof.

I don't want to sidetrack the thread but what are you talking about the poster dropping intel on the Ethiopian Federation? Email me wejo@letsrun.com

As for the Aden story we didn't put a lot of resources into it as it was a major drug raid done by World Athletics that was a big story in the Spanish press and we're thousands of miles away. I figured more would come out by now.

@wejo - I don’t normally agree with most of the potshots that people take at you guys, but I think they’re on to something here. The Aden story involved many people and some more accessible to you. I do feel at times there is a curious difference in the way that LetsRun pursues certain things. You were hell bent on keeping Steve Mullins out of the NCAAs and you guys seem to defend Shelby. You’ve gone after Gatlin and gave Rupp tons of sh!t for years. You seem to have a ‘forgive and forget’ vibe with some people but not others.

I’m not suggesting malfeasance. It’s just curious. And it is your site, so your rules. As a person who’s been here a long time, I think there are some inconsistencies that would be worth looking at and maybe deciding if the site should take more consistent editorial positions.