Most of the other doubles at 2023 Worlds are pretty doable for potential doublers like Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone and Athing Mu, but the 1500, 5000, 10,000 triple looks to be impossible as is says Jonathan Gault. The good news...
I read it. Why pander to one guy? 10000m is popular on this site but most of the world's tv viewers are not entertained by 10000m. There are numerous potential doubles which do not occur due to schedule overlap. The world would be excited seeing Athing Mu race 400m & 800m. The world would be excited to see Femke Bol and Sydney McLauglin race 400m & 400mH. There have been consistent schedule overlap for many World Championships with the events I stated. Tell J.I. to race sub-26:40 10000m then we'll think about it. There have been more than one fast W.C. 5000m races. I don't believe J.I. will participate in a 5000m final again that doesn't split 4000m sub-10:30 again.
If Ingebrigtsen is going to triple, I’d rather see him in the steeple than the 10k. But I think he should focus on 1500 gold and then try to repeat in the 5k before adding anything else.
I don’t think they should change the schedule for him BUT let us say they do change the schedule, Jakob certainly would not win all 3. He hasn’t proven he can win 2 yet. The fact that he would even contemplate it is an implicit admission that he is doping.
Not to derail the thread, but what is your obsession with this number? The leaders split 10:17 in Florence and Jakob won handily. And if you don't think championship 5ks will continue to be slow, you should look up this guy named Mo Farah.
As for the triple, I agree they shouldn't change the schedule just for him (nor has he asked them to), but it might be fun to see him try it and see how he does compared to Hassan.
Track and field is for the athletes. TV, ratings, fans are secondary (important for income for both the participants and governing bodies) but ultimately non essential - runners will run regardless. So, yes, 100% they should adjust the schedule for an athlete to attempt to achieve something great.
Your statements regarding M. Farah have merit. You cannot compare what someone does in a meaningless meet to a serious meet with heats such as Olympic &/or W.C. I believe a sub-10:30 4000m split in an Olympic &/or W.C. final will result in J.I.'s defeat at 5000m. I stated on here close to six months ago J.I. most likely would not win 2022 W.C. 1500m final. I stated on here a day or two before 2022 W.C. 5000m final what Grant Fisher needed to do to earn 5000m gold. I stated on here a day or two before 2022 W.C. 5000m final G. Fisher needed to race penultimate lap sub-59 in order to win. J.I. was the one obviously who read my post. J.I. raced penultimate lap sub-59 and won. G. Fisher chose not to race penultimate sub-59. Maybe you should ask me who will win a particular race in next W.C. instead of differing with me.
Not to derail the thread, but what is your obsession with this number? The leaders split 10:17 in Florence and Jakob won handily. And if you don't think championship 5ks will continue to be slow, you should look up this guy named Mo Farah.
As for the triple, I agree they shouldn't change the schedule just for him (nor has he asked them to), but it might be fun to see him try it and see how he does compared to Hassan.
Your statements regarding M. Farah have merit. You cannot compare what someone does in a meaningless meet to a serious meet with heats such as Olympic &/or W.C. I believe a sub-10:30 4000m split in an Olympic &/or W.C. final will result in J.I.'s defeat at 5000m. I stated on here close to six months ago J.I. most likely would not win 2022 W.C. 1500m final. I stated on here a day or two before 2022 W.C. 5000m final what Grant Fisher needed to do to earn 5000m gold. I stated on here a day or two before 2022 W.C. 5000m final G. Fisher needed to race penultimate lap sub-59 in order to win. J.I. was the one obviously who read my post. J.I. raced penultimate lap sub-59 and won. G. Fisher chose not to race penultimate sub-59. Maybe you should ask me who will win a particular race in next W.C. instead of differing with me.
Imagine ragging on a guy that won WC gold and silver and double EC gold in his 21 year for having ambitions to best it, and at the same act like your are a god given nostradamus just for throwing out some low quality guesses. Just hillarious.
Track and field is for the athletes. TV, ratings, fans are secondary (important for income for both the participants and governing bodies) but ultimately non essential - runners will run regardless. So, yes, 100% they should adjust the schedule for an athlete to attempt to achieve something great.
OK but let us say there is an athlete who wants to triple 8,15 and 5. Then we need to adjust it for him too. When will it end?
Let them prove first that they can win those events one at a time. Then we can discuss potential schedule changes.
Everyone should be able to double or triple - leave it to the IAAF to throw away the chance of positive media headlines for the sport about such. But the problem is the WC format, compressed as it is to one week, it should be streched over many weekends.
Weekend 1: The 100 meters.
Weekend 2. The 200 meters, with all the finalist from 100 as wildcards.
Weekend 3. The 400 meters, with all the finalists from the 200 as wildcards.
Weekend 4. The 800 meters, with all the finalists from the 400 meters as wildcards.
Etc, etc, etc
The IAAF should stretch the World Champions title battles out over the whole second half of the summer to maximize media attention - AND that way it would also be possible to keep the Diamond League running in the background AT THE SAME TIME!
Not to derail the thread, but what is your obsession with this number? The leaders split 10:17 in Florence and Jakob won handily. And if you don't think championship 5ks will continue to be slow, you should look up this guy named Mo Farah.
As for the triple, I agree they shouldn't change the schedule just for him (nor has he asked them to), but it might be fun to see him try it and see how he does compared to Hassan.
Your statements regarding M. Farah have merit. You cannot compare what someone does in a meaningless meet to a serious meet with heats such as Olympic &/or W.C. I believe a sub-10:30 4000m split in an Olympic &/or W.C. final will result in J.I.'s defeat at 5000m. I stated on here close to six months ago J.I. most likely would not win 2022 W.C. 1500m final. I stated on here a day or two before 2022 W.C. 5000m final what Grant Fisher needed to do to earn 5000m gold. I stated on here a day or two before 2022 W.C. 5000m final G. Fisher needed to race penultimate lap sub-59 in order to win. J.I. was the one obviously who read my post. J.I. raced penultimate lap sub-59 and won. G. Fisher chose not to race penultimate sub-59. Maybe you should ask me who will win a particular race in next W.C. instead of differing with me.
I agree, Jakob obviously took your advice. He should give you his Gold Medal as a reward.
It’s a always about great individual performances. That’s what makes money. It’s a business and this would be a great a business decision. We consider Usain Bolt and Carl Lewis GREAT because they won a ton of gold medals. They made track and field a lot of money because of it.
Great idea. Currently only the 100/200 and 5k/10k are consistently set up to allow for doubling up and other events move around the championship schedule seemingly at random.
Athletics need to look at swimming and how they produce stars that break through beyond their sport through sheer weight of medals per championships. Very few swimmers ever made their name through greatness at one distance or stroke.
To aid planning athletes should be ranked in the top 20 minimum of the events they want the schedule catering for (so as to limit it to genuine star athletes) and be given a chance to make a formal application prior to the schedule of an event being formalised.
Ny main thoughts would be to run the 5k first then 1500 leaving the 800 and 10k to the final days as nobody would try to double those 2 events.
Split the 400 flat and hurdles so the likes of Bol, McLaughlin and Warholm can run both and the long jump and triple jump in the field events.
There’s no way he could run a 10000m final and then a 1500m semi on consecutive days. It takes a minimum of 2 days to recover from running a hard 10000m.