Isn’t most of the data already also on athletic.net? It’s a far superior platform to Milesplit in many ways, but regardless that seems to suggest the data wouldn’t just go away if Milesplit did.
No, athletic.net is not a "far superior platform". It is also junky and the person who deisgned this burgundy abomination must have been color blind.
Previous poster, no TFRRS would never import milesplit. Too many egos on the TFRRS side for them to ever give in to that. I am telling you, Milesplit data is overall very inaccurate therefore bad data. TFRRS has its own shortcomings and limitations on the web front but the policy practically tying NCAA participation to the platform is sound.
I know just an individual sample case, but all my daughters results from the last year are 100% accurate including about 50 races. also what I’ve seen from her teammates and full race results.
there are a couple races missing, but unattached races, so understand that is on the meet director. I think once she had a race load to a new profile, but MS corrected within a couple days after I submitted the form.
only bad data I’ve seen is profiles combined of different people with same name.
Mr. Versaw's heart and dedication was pure. No doubt. But he made that error of devoting all those hours to Milesplit, for free, and continuing despite no return on his time investment. Realistically, he should have had his own website. And that's why the milesplit co data sits there anchored. It is a shame.
If you think Alan's efforts were pure, then you don't know him very well.
Mr. Versaw's heart and dedication was pure. No doubt. But he made that error of devoting all those hours to Milesplit, for free, and continuing despite no return on his time investment. Realistically, he should have had his own website. And that's why the milesplit co data sits there anchored. It is a shame.
If you think Alan's efforts were pure, then you don't know him very well.
I dont know him in a deep personal level but I will say that in my limited encounter I deemed his knowledge, efficiency and dedication to the statistics as classic and almost one of a kind for Colorado. Perhaps over time his demeanor changed because he realized he was duped into milesplit and his blood, sweat and tears to make it happen were unrecognized and under compensated. Anyone would develop an attitude after that and they have and stilly currently do.
Milesplit really started to suck after FloSports bought them. They completely stopped development on the site for years, it was painfully clear it was not a priority for FloSports at all. There have been aspects of Milesplit around hosting meets and uploading results that were broken for half a season and things like their virtual meet functionality, one of the few things actually worth paying their subscription fee for us coaches, was broken for an entire season one year. The website completely sucks on mobile devices. God forbid I need to make changes to meet entries at the last minute while I'm still at practice or check an athlete's state ranking while I'm at a meet. They let RaceTab, their nice but free meet management software, languish into irrelevance. Meanwhile DirectAthletics and MeetPro have just about cornered the market on affordable meet management software and live results posting.
College coaches were very smart when they created TFRRS. Us High School coaches should be screaming to standardize on a platform like that across the country. If Milesplit is what most state organizations like, then we should create a site like TFRRS based off Milesplit, in the same way TFRRS is based off DirectAthletics. That seems pretty silly when TFRRS already exists though. The bottom line is as things currently stand, FloSports owns years and years worth of data now for many states, and they can charge whatever they want for us all to use it, and if they do go out of business someday it could be lost forever. We should have never let that happen.
Isn’t most of the data already also on athletic.net? It’s a far superior platform to Milesplit in many ways, but regardless that seems to suggest the data wouldn’t just go away if Milesplit did.
Athletic.net has the same problems Milesplit does, it's a private entity with its own business interest. In the case of TFRRS, USTFCCCA/NCAA paid for the rights to own the data (someone can correct me if I'm wrong, this is my understanding). That's why TFRRS isn't plastered with ads like Milesplit is. If DirectAthletics were to go out of business tomorrow, all that data in TFRRS for NCAA track would be safe and sound.
For Colorado, Milesplit has been the official meet management system (as deemed by CHSAA) for high school track and cross country for at least the last 12 years (maybe 15?). Meaning every single high school meet registration and results were handled through Milesplit over this time. The high school data for our state for all these years is all inclusive in Milesplit, almost entirely thanks to the efforts of coaches, meet managers and timing crews. The data in Athletic.net isn't even close for Colorado, because it's just simply not the system we've been using. Some high school results for our state do end up in Athletic.net, but it's nothing like what's in Milesplit. I suspect the same is true of states that don't officially use Milesplit, there is some data in Milesplit but it will never be as comprehensive as whatever system they are officially using. There is just simply no way any 3rd party could keep up with all the data created during a high school sports season without the help of the people actually running the meets.
So there you have it, if your state uses Athletic.net you will have to pay them if you want to view all their rankings and reports and if your state uses Milesplit you'll have to pay them to do the same. If you are in one of the lucky few states that use TFRRS (like Florida) then you can see all this stuff for free.
TFRRS is obviously the best one out of all of them. I also really like IAAF, they have really good athlete profiles but you have to be pretty quick to get one, I think it’s like sub 1:56 800, 4:20 mile sub 4 (1500) and sub 15 5k. But if you run quick times they are really good about getting the performance on right away, and once you hit one of their standards they’ll start to add your other PRs even if they’re slower then their typical profile standards.
I really do wish there was a site that could have all the results and easily upload your results even after the fact. It is very unfortunate that someone who ran pre 2005 is probably missing a lot of it not most of their results online. IAAF is pretty good about getting historical results up but again they won’t take results that are slower then certain times so for most there is no really good way to get your historical results online.