Sean is now rewarded with the new 10k Q standard (27:10) for next year's Worlds in Budapest.
Which means that both he and Grant are now "free" to race World XC in Australia next March as they don't have to chase another 10k time at SoundRunning's The Ten, the Payton Jordan 10k or any other 2023 winter/spring 10k time trial race.
However, for Klecker, Kincaid, Bor, Nur, Maggard, Mantz -- the other top US 10k guys, none of whom have met the 27:10 standard-- they pretty much have to run The Ten or PJ.
To make matters more difficult, WA is limiting the Budapest 10k field to only 27 entrants. There will not be 27 men worldwide with the Q so a handful of them will get in on rankings or by winning their Area Championship race as McGorty just did.
Sure hope The Ten comes through next year with at least one other US runner under 27:10. However, would not be surprised at all if Grant & Sean are the only two US 10k runners in Budapest.
Sean is now rewarded with the new 10k Q standard (27:10) for next year's Worlds in Budapest.
Which means that both he and Grant are now "free" to race World XC in Australia next March as they don't have to chase another 10k time at SoundRunning's The Ten, the Payton Jordan 10k or any other 2023 winter/spring 10k time trial race.
However, for Klecker, Kincaid, Bor, Nur, Maggard, Mantz -- the other top US 10k guys, none of whom have met the 27:10 standard-- they pretty much have to run The Ten or PJ.
To make matters more difficult, WA is limiting the Budapest 10k field to only 27 entrants. There will not be 27 men worldwide with the Q so a handful of them will get in on rankings or by winning their Area Championship race as McGorty just did.
Sure hope The Ten comes through next year with at least one other US runner under 27:10. However, would not be surprised at all if Grant & Sean are the only two US 10k runners in Budapest.
I wouldn’t be surprised at all if Klecker, Kincaid, Nur and/or Bor (in that order) could manage sub-27:10 in a BTC type time-trial.
I hope Conner Mantz runs World XC. If I’m him, I make my marathon debut in Chicago, I take a crack at the American record at the Houston Half, I race World XC and then a 10k TT in April or May, and if I break 27:10, I try to make the team for Budapest, if I don’t I shift focus entirely toward the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials.
Sean is now rewarded with the new 10k Q standard (27:10) for next year's Worlds in Budapest.
Which means that both he and Grant are now "free" to race World XC in Australia next March as they don't have to chase another 10k time at SoundRunning's The Ten, the Payton Jordan 10k or any other 2023 winter/spring 10k time trial race.
However, for Klecker, Kincaid, Bor, Nur, Maggard, Mantz -- the other top US 10k guys, none of whom have met the 27:10 standard-- they pretty much have to run The Ten or PJ.
To make matters more difficult, WA is limiting the Budapest 10k field to only 27 entrants. There will not be 27 men worldwide with the Q so a handful of them will get in on rankings or by winning their Area Championship race as McGorty just did.
Sure hope The Ten comes through next year with at least one other US runner under 27:10. However, would not be surprised at all if Grant & Sean are the only two US 10k runners in Budapest.
Maybe, but not quite there for McGorty. He could still be need to qualify.
Quite the bomb to drop on the day the NACAC Champs start (and 5 days into Euros). pic.twitter.com/qsHyDcAmGj
If Grant, Sean and, say, Joe Klecker, are the only runners in the US 10k champs next spring with the WC Q, wouldn't they automatically quality for Budapest regardless of where they finish, so long as they finish and the winner is slower that 27:10.00? Is there another layer of qualification involved here?
If Grant, Sean and, say, Joe Klecker, are the only runners in the US 10k champs next spring with the WC Q, wouldn't they automatically quality for Budapest regardless of where they finish, so long as they finish and the winner is slower that 27:10.00? Is there another layer of qualification involved here?
The first rule, written in English, means that winning your area championship only counts as a qualifier if nobody else in your area has run faster than you.
Since McGorty has to look no further than his own team to find someone faster than him, he doesn’t have the standard.
If Grant, Sean and, say, Joe Klecker, are the only runners in the US 10k champs next spring with the WC Q, wouldn't they automatically quality for Budapest regardless of where they finish, so long as they finish and the winner is slower that 27:10.00? Is there another layer of qualification involved here?
The first rule, written in English, means that winning your area championship only counts as a qualifier if nobody else in your area has run faster than you.
Since McGorty has to look no further than his own team to find someone faster than him, he doesn’t have the standard.
And "area" includes Canada and Central America, not just the US - doesn't add many more to the mix but does add some
If Grant, Sean and, say, Joe Klecker, are the only runners in the US 10k champs next spring with the WC Q, wouldn't they automatically quality for Budapest regardless of where they finish, so long as they finish and the winner is slower that 27:10.00? Is there another layer of qualification involved here?
The first rule, written in English, means that winning your area championship only counts as a qualifier if nobody else in your area has run faster than you.
Since McGorty has to look no further than his own team to find someone faster than him, he doesn’t have the standard.
My read of it was that McGorty now has the standard as long as nobody else in the area is ranked higher than him… still equally as much of an issue but less to do with time and more to do with world rankings. So Fisher (3), Ahmed (6), Klecker (16) all outrank McGorty (23) and McGorty is still without the standard
My read of it was that McGorty now has the standard as long as nobody else in the area is ranked higher than him… still equally as much of an issue but less to do with time and more to do with world rankings. So Fisher (3), Ahmed (6), Klecker (16) all outrank McGorty (23) and McGorty is still without the standard
Yes, this appears to be the correct interpretation of the new WA Worlds qualification system rules regarding Area championships.
Klecker at #16 appears safe for the moment in making Budapest next year despite not having the Q, so long as he comes in top-3 at USAs next year. So, he could skip The Ten and run World XC -- which he has already mentioned he will attempt to do next year.
However, McGorty at #23 is too close to the 27-entrant cutoff to feel comfortable so likely he will try again for the Q at The Ten or Payton Jordan.
Would love to see a US xc team in Australia next year headlined by Fisher and Klecker.
At the same time, if Grant stays on an upward linear improvement curve he's been on for the past 3 years, we could well see him take a run at the 10k WR (26:11) at The Ten and prioritize that effort over World XC.
My read of it was that McGorty now has the standard as long as nobody else in the area is ranked higher than him… still equally as much of an issue but less to do with time and more to do with world rankings. So Fisher (3), Ahmed (6), Klecker (16) all outrank McGorty (23) and McGorty is still without the standard
Yes, this appears to be the correct interpretation of the new WA Worlds qualification system rules regarding Area championships.
Klecker at #16 appears safe for the moment in making Budapest next year despite not having the Q, so long as he comes in top-3 at USAs next year. So, he could skip The Ten and run World XC -- which he has already mentioned he will attempt to do next year.
However, McGorty at #23 is too close to the 27-entrant cutoff to feel comfortable so likely he will try again for the Q at The Ten or Payton Jordan.
Would love to see a US xc team in Australia next year headlined by Fisher and Klecker.
At the same time, if Grant stays on an upward linear improvement curve he's been on for the past 3 years, we could well see him take a run at the 10k WR (26:11) at The Ten and prioritize that effort over World XC.
I know he won Footlocker and ran 3:59 in High School and all, but if Grant Fisher runs a 26:10 10k he’s far more doped up than his convicted doper former club mate.
My read of it was that McGorty now has the standard as long as nobody else in the area is ranked higher than him… still equally as much of an issue but less to do with time and more to do with world rankings. So Fisher (3), Ahmed (6), Klecker (16) all outrank McGorty (23) and McGorty is still without the standard
Yes, this appears to be the correct interpretation of the new WA Worlds qualification system rules regarding Area championships.
Klecker at #16 appears safe for the moment in making Budapest next year despite not having the Q, so long as he comes in top-3 at USAs next year. So, he could skip The Ten and run World XC -- which he has already mentioned he will attempt to do next year.
However, McGorty at #23 is too close to the 27-entrant cutoff to feel comfortable so likely he will try again for the Q at The Ten or Payton Jordan.
Would love to see a US xc team in Australia next year headlined by Fisher and Klecker.
At the same time, if Grant stays on an upward linear improvement curve he's been on for the past 3 years, we could well see him take a run at the 10k WR (26:11) at The Ten and prioritize that effort over World XC.
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