With the super spikes and tracks it is still weak. Uganda superstar Joshua Cheptegei ran 7:31 to close out his 5000m world record of 12:35. JC averaged 7:33 pace for the entire 5000m. Let us get real here. This 3000m record is still weak for the Americans but it is inching closer to respectability. Props to Grant Fisher for taking it down a bit lower.
Lol. Without super chooz Fisher certainly couldn't go below 7:28.5. Tracks? Chooz? If it was that easy we would see 100s of Kenyans and Ethiopians going below 7:25...but guess what?....
Yooou are WEAK and have a shoe fetish.
Grant Fisher is a beast.
Yooou wrote:
With the super spikes and tracks it is still weak. Uganda superstar Joshua Cheptegei ran 7:31 to close out his 5000m world record of 12:35. JC averaged 7:33 pace for the entire 5000m. Let us get real here. This 3000m record is still weak for the Americans but it is inching closer to respectability. Props to Grant Fisher for taking it down a bit lower.
Just couldn’t help yourself?
Epic Runs wrote:
Yooou are WEAK and have a shoe fetish.
Grant Fisher is a beast.
Grant is a beast for sure. Shelby was too. Just saying. I do enjoy watching the guy run. He does seem to have found his sport. He really is a gifted runner and then of course when you add to it…
Look up Cheptegei’s 3000 PB…Running fast over 3,000 is hard and Grant is not the perfect profile for it given speed is a limiting factor. 7:28 is plenty good.
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Look up Cheptegei’s 3000 PB…Running fast over 3,000 is hard and Grant is not the perfect profile for it given speed is a limiting factor. 7:28 is plenty good.
Why is running fast over 3000m “hard” in relation to 5000m? Come on man. There is nothing special about 3000m. It is an arbitrary distance. As far as JC goes, he ran his 12:35 at Monaco where there is something special and of course he appeared to be doped up. The day JC ran 12:35 it is pretty clear he could have run around 7:23. After all he averaged 7:33 and finished in 7:31.
Also remember when JC ran his 7:33 at Ostrava he was NOT in the same shape as his world records and he went out in 3:39 halfway (1500m) and 3:55 at 1600m. It was too fast for anyone except maybe prime Komen and JC was not in shape for that.
Some folks are also getting too excited here. Monaco is where Farah ran 3:28 and JC ran 12:35. It is likely that this 3000m would have been slower anywhere else. Another thing is some of the legends of the past had to lead maybe half of their super fast 3000m races whereas Grant was able to follow the entire race. Huge advantage and he did well to utilize it. The kid is a very smart time trial racer and he will likely be a savvy championship racer soon enough.
He's run 26:33...saying 7:28 is just the track is stupid. He's on another level of any distance runner the U.S. has ever had. He likely is in 12:45ish shape right now. People trying to put any kind of negative spin on how he's been running are stupid. Why do you even follow running if all you're going to do is find reason to s hit on performances like this?
dafafd wrote:
He's run 26:33...saying 7:28 is just the track is stupid. He's on another level of any distance runner the U.S. has ever had. He likely is in 12:45ish shape right now. People trying to put any kind of negative spin on how he's been running are stupid. Why do you even follow running if all you're going to do is find reason to s hit on performances like this?
I speak the truth. Grant is NOT on another level. He is the same level as Rupp but the super spikes came after Galen’s prime. I find Grant more likable than Galen BUT they are on the same level as athletes if not for the technology.
I don't love how you said it, but I kinda agree. I think the only really strong outdoor records we have are the steeple/10k. With how Americans fare in championships, I feel like the other distance records should be stronger. Like, 3:29 and 12:53? They're great times for an individual, but as US records, they're kinda lackluster to me. Rupp ran 3:34 and 26:44, which should've put him well into the 12:40s. Chelimo has won multiple medals at the world stage, but is still 10 seconds behind Ahmed in terms of PRs. I know that medals matter more than times, but I'd like to see more of our best runners (like Grant) chasing fast times.
Correct.
This Yooou fool is all over this website today bashing Fisher.
He is most likely a Grant Fisher hater with another user name but today goes by Yooou.
Epic Runs wrote:
Correct.
This Yooou fool is all over this website today bashing Fisher.
He is most likely a Grant Fisher hater with another user name but today goes by Yooou.
Hater? I love the guy when I see him interviewed as he really comes across well. He is a great runner. I simply add additional observations to that foundation.
He did just that (chase fast times) this year and people bashed him. He ran at Worlds and didn’t medal and people bashed him. He runs DL in Europe sets an AR and people bash him.
There are a few under achievers on the board that feel good about themselves by bashing those that accomplish.
Don’t give a poster like Yoou a nod - he is a fool.
Epic Runs wrote:
He did just that (chase fast times) this year and people bashed him. He ran at Worlds and didn’t medal and people bashed him. He runs DL in Europe sets an AR and people bash him.
There are a few under achievers on the board that feel good about themselves by bashing those that accomplish.
Don’t give a poster like Yoou a nod - he is a fool.
We can agree to disagree BUT one may play devil’s advocate to your fanboy WITHOUT being a fool.
The Australian record is still faster (7:28.02).
I believe we have 1/13th the population, yet similar demographics.
Yooou wrote:
With the super spikes and tracks it is still weak. Uganda superstar Joshua Cheptegei ran 7:31 to close out his 5000m world record of 12:35. JC averaged 7:33 pace for the entire 5000m. Let us get real here. This 3000m record is still weak for the Americans but it is inching closer to respectability. Props to Grant Fisher for taking it down a bit lower.
Another blowhard with zero racing chops opining on the strength of a record that took sub 60 pace for 7.5 laps to break. Post your 3k pr before you post again.
Are we going to ignore that besides the fact that the Burundi guy had the freshest legs, Aregawi is supposed to be the world beater here and Grant was gaining in him and could have beaten him if he stayed with the second group? Are we also going to ignore Grant destroyed the best of the Kenyans? Basically left Krop in the dust.
Grant was flying at the end. Should have been in the 3:27s or better