Lifetime Ban for British Coach Toni Minichiello
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Listen to him talk and you won’t be surprised. Dude has an ego the size of Victoria Falls. Once these guys have some coaching success they think they can do whatever they want.
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What’s worst is denying the charges, when there are so many individual athletes making complaints.
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summary of charges here
http://www.uka.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2022/08/Summary-of-charges.pdf
what a complete c*** - good riddance to him
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Shocking stuff. Is this guy an alcoholic or a drug addict? I mean... dry humping athletes, this guy had to be on something.
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Ban expires: Aug 11, 2022 wrote:
Shocking stuff. Is this guy an alcoholic or a drug addict? I mean... dry humping athletes, this guy had to be on something.
It sounds as if he may have been on the athlete.
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Jesus.
Second thing that came to mind (first being how bad those charges are) was how on earth did he possibly think this would end well for him, especially in this day and age? Wow, just wow.
What a lecherous old coozer
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For the record, he came out today and emphatically denid ALL the charges, writing in part, "
"For example, one of the most serious allegations was said to have taken place when I was in a different country to the person making the allegations. The tribunal refused to admit my evidence on this point and found against me as a result."36 -
So this situation is somewhat circular in that someone capable of such behaviour is also highly likely to take the road of absolute and emphatic defense vs ownership and remorse.
So okay "one of most serious allegations" supposedly happened in a different country to what he was in - and this is his "joker card" that absolves him from everything else? Well last time I checked that article stated at least 11 things - all of which were quite serious, so which one was it? Furthermore some of the comments about personal lives could easily have happened while an athlete was in a different location to he was.
If this was one allegation with something like that then okay, maybe we need some more context - but we have more than a handful that follow the same theme and involve different athletes. Hard to believe that at least one of these isn't completely legit and that's enough for him to go.
(ps I know you weren't defending him just reporting a fact of what his rebuttal was)
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If this is all false, then I'm looking forward to see him sue UKA for libel. Of course that will never happen.
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He can deny the claims all he likes. Terrible people always deny and then double-down. The evidence has been gathered and assessed. The sport is all the better for being rid of him.
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First off , Police are not taking any action
Second , If its proven that one case was total fabrication then what about the others
UKA have alot of skeletons in their cupboard and some of those will be out soon , it is highly likely that several coaches who have banned will succesfully sue UKA and that will be the federation bankrupt !
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"It is understood UKA is liaising with the complainants over whether they wish for the matter to be passed on to the police."
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Has anyone read the PDF of what he's accused of?
The Independent Case Management Group found the following charges proven:
Made inappropriate sexual references and gestures, including:
i) Repeatedly putting two fingers to your mouth and poking your tongue through your lips so
as to mimic female genitalia and oral sex:
ii) In the presence and hearing of other athletes commenting to A5 that if she did not continue
training, she could “suck my ****”;
iii) When A2 asked you what training was going to entail, you responded “sucking my ****”;
iv) Frequently referring to your penis as your “spicy Italian sausage”
Failed to respect the athletes’ right to a private life by making intrusive enquiry and derogatory
comments about their personal lives, including:
v) Making inappropriate comments about their relationships and boyfriends;
vi) Asking A3 if she had ever had sex while doing weights, and “Does your boyfriend ever come
and stick one in you?”;
vii) Telling A2 that she would “never get married”, and “never have kids.”
Engaged in sexually physical behaviour, namely inappropriate and unwanted touching of athletes
to whom you owed a duty of care, including:
viii) Mimicking sexual activity (‘Dry Humping’) – each of A2, A3, and A9 – from behind;
ix) Touching A3’s breasts;
x) Commenting on and touching A1’s breasts.
Engaged in inappropriate and sometimes aggressive behaviour, bullying and emotional abuse,
including:
xi) Instructing A2 to sit in a corner with a cone on her head as a Dunce’s cap.
Various other charges were not proven.You think that's worth a lifetime ban? Guy sounds like a crude ass. Give him some sensitivity training, maybe a year or two suspension but you don't ban someone from life for their profession for that. DeShaun Watson whipped his penis out to 25+ women and got 6 weeks. Trevor Bauer is accused of violating abusing a woman and got 2 years.
Lifetime ban for dry humping? No.
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guy is a jack*** but lifetime ban? wrote:
Has anyone read the PDF of what he's accused of?
The Independent Case Management Group found the following charges proven:
Made inappropriate sexual references and gestures, including:
i) Repeatedly putting two fingers to your mouth and poking your tongue through your lips so
as to mimic female genitalia and oral sex:
ii) In the presence and hearing of other athletes commenting to A5 that if she did not continue
training, she could “suck my ****”;
iii) When A2 asked you what training was going to entail, you responded “sucking my ****”;
iv) Frequently referring to your penis as your “spicy Italian sausage”
Failed to respect the athletes’ right to a private life by making intrusive enquiry and derogatory
comments about their personal lives, including:
v) Making inappropriate comments about their relationships and boyfriends;
vi) Asking A3 if she had ever had sex while doing weights, and “Does your boyfriend ever come
and stick one in you?”;
vii) Telling A2 that she would “never get married”, and “never have kids.”
Engaged in sexually physical behaviour, namely inappropriate and unwanted touching of athletes
to whom you owed a duty of care, including:
viii) Mimicking sexual activity (‘Dry Humping’) – each of A2, A3, and A9 – from behind;
ix) Touching A3’s breasts;
x) Commenting on and touching A1’s breasts.
Engaged in inappropriate and sometimes aggressive behaviour, bullying and emotional abuse,
including:
xi) Instructing A2 to sit in a corner with a cone on her head as a Dunce’s cap.
Various other charges were not proven.You think that's worth a lifetime ban? Guy sounds like a crude ass. Give him some sensitivity training, maybe a year or two suspension but you don't ban someone from life for their profession for that. DeShaun Watson whipped his penis out to 25+ women and got 6 weeks. Trevor Bauer is accused of violating abusing a woman and got 2 years.
Lifetime ban for dry humping? No.
Couple of things - did you contemplate that possibly this actually is the kind of punishment that should be handed out for behaviour like this and that Watsons (clearly ridiculous) and even Bauers suspensions are actually too light?
The other difference is that he was a coach so the context is different. As a coach there is even a higher level of ethical and moral responsibility due to the nature of the relationship and this is actually reflected in the coaches ethical duties/code of conduct that they sign up to (as a formerly accredited coach he would have signed and known full well about this).
So actually, his ban is more than fair and understandable. Ciao.
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Salvitore Stitchmo wrote:
Couple of things - did you contemplate that possibly this actually is the kind of punishment that should be handed out for behaviour like this and that Watsons (clearly ridiculous) and even Bauers suspensions are actually too light?
The other difference is that he was a coach so the context is different. As a coach there is even a higher level of ethical and moral responsibility due to the nature of the relationship and this is actually reflected in the coaches ethical duties/code of conduct that they sign up to (as a formerly accredited coach he would have signed and known full well about this).
So actually, his ban is more than fair and understandable. Ciao.
Agreed. A person like that must never coach again.
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guy is a jack*** but lifetime ban? wrote:
Has anyone read the PDF of what he's accused of?
The Independent Case Management Group found the following charges proven:
Made inappropriate sexual references and gestures, including:
i) Repeatedly putting two fingers to your mouth and poking your tongue through your lips so
as to mimic female genitalia and oral sex:
ii) In the presence and hearing of other athletes commenting to A5 that if she did not continue
training, she could “suck my ****”;
iii) When A2 asked you what training was going to entail, you responded “sucking my ****”;
iv) Frequently referring to your penis as your “spicy Italian sausage”
Failed to respect the athletes’ right to a private life by making intrusive enquiry and derogatory
comments about their personal lives, including:
v) Making inappropriate comments about their relationships and boyfriends;
vi) Asking A3 if she had ever had sex while doing weights, and “Does your boyfriend ever come
and stick one in you?”;
vii) Telling A2 that she would “never get married”, and “never have kids.”
Engaged in sexually physical behaviour, namely inappropriate and unwanted touching of athletes
to whom you owed a duty of care, including:
viii) Mimicking sexual activity (‘Dry Humping’) – each of A2, A3, and A9 – from behind;
ix) Touching A3’s breasts;
x) Commenting on and touching A1’s breasts.
Engaged in inappropriate and sometimes aggressive behaviour, bullying and emotional abuse,
including:
xi) Instructing A2 to sit in a corner with a cone on her head as a Dunce’s cap.
Various other charges were not proven.You think that's worth a lifetime ban? Guy sounds like a crude ass. Give him some sensitivity training, maybe a year or two suspension but you don't ban someone from life for their profession for that. DeShaun Watson whipped his penis out to 25+ women and got 6 weeks. Trevor Bauer is accused of violating abusing a woman and got 2 years.
Lifetime ban for dry humping? No.
Correct me if am I wrong, but this case seems to be about a fully grown man who in his capacity as a coach has committed numerous sexual offenses of varying kinds against far-younger female athletes in his charge.
The only athletes this middle-aged man has been accused of dry humping and committing other sorts of sexual harassment and abuse against happen to be female and far younger than he. He has exclusively preyed and picked on younger persons under his purview who are female.
To you, it might not be a big deal when fully grown men with powerful male physiques in positions of power and authority over girls and young women take advantage of the unequal power dynamic to dry hump and otherwise sexually abuse the girls and young women who are under the men's thumb. But I bet that's because you yourself are a man who has no effin' idea what it's like to be a female person subjected to unwanted dry humping and other sexual abuse by a male authority figure much bigger, stronger and powerful than you.
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rojo wrote:
For the record, he came out today and emphatically denid ALL the charges, writing in part, "
"For example, one of the most serious allegations was said to have taken place when I was in a different country to the person making the allegations. The tribunal refused to admit my evidence on this point and found against me as a result."Of course Rojo goes out of his way to defend him
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And of course the BBC employed him for commentary
Innocent until proven guilty a la Jimmy savile
Something smelt off about him on tv
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