This is the creepiest thing I've ever read. It's "destructive" that kids are not showering with adults more and looking at their junk? This should also be allowed since pedophiles exist? I don't think this is quite the slam dunk you think it is.
The most disturbing thing is this: trans advocacy is not about protecting trans people (how should we define this category) from discrimination, it's about ignoring science and defining sex out of existence. The real, horrific end goal of some advocates is transhumanism. In actuality, this would amount to a billionaire-owned transhuman metaverse. Call me a Luddite, but I want to live freely as a human being in my natural body.
In the short run, girls and women are faced with the intrusion of psychosexual predators into formerly sex-segregated spaces. Some of the virtue-signaling "progressives" will pretend that there's no danger and that women in favor of sex-based rights are simply hating on feminine males who only want to live their lives in a way that feels authentic to them. Obviously these males exist (no, they're not females no matter how female-typical their personalities), but there are also deeply disturbed males whose female identification is sadistic and predatory. Denis Rader, the BTK serial killer from Kansas, literally said that he feels like he is part female. He privately dressed as a woman to pose for bondage photos to satisfy his sadistic sexual urges, then moved on to binding and killing actual women and their families. He had to do all this privately in 1970s and 80s Kansas, but you're fooling yourself if you think men with similar pathologies today will not take advantage of the "inclusive" social policies meant for people who don't pose a threat. And here's the key: women have no way of differentiating between these two types of men.
What if it's got nothing to do with the forthcoming transhuman metaverse, psychosexual predators or BDSM serial killers from the 70s? What if it's just trans people wanting to pee without being harassed?
You're being willfully ignorant of the ramifications of letting men use women's bathrooms. There are reasons men and women have separate spaces in the first place. You're missing the entire point of this "gender-identity" movement happening, which has nothing to do with where this particular trans person wants to take a piss.
The most disturbing thing is this: trans advocacy is not about protecting trans people (how should we define this category) from discrimination, it's about ignoring science and defining sex out of existence. The real, horrific end goal of some advocates is transhumanism. In actuality, this would amount to a billionaire-owned transhuman metaverse. Call me a Luddite, but I want to live freely as a human being in my natural body.
In the short run, girls and women are faced with the intrusion of psychosexual predators into formerly sex-segregated spaces. Some of the virtue-signaling "progressives" will pretend that there's no danger and that women in favor of sex-based rights are simply hating on feminine males who only want to live their lives in a way that feels authentic to them. Obviously these males exist (no, they're not females no matter how female-typical their personalities), but there are also deeply disturbed males whose female identification is sadistic and predatory. Denis Rader, the BTK serial killer from Kansas, literally said that he feels like he is part female. He privately dressed as a woman to pose for bondage photos to satisfy his sadistic sexual urges, then moved on to binding and killing actual women and their families. He had to do all this privately in 1970s and 80s Kansas, but you're fooling yourself if you think men with similar pathologies today will not take advantage of the "inclusive" social policies meant for people who don't pose a threat. And here's the key: women have no way of differentiating between these two types of men.
What if it's got nothing to do with the forthcoming transhuman metaverse, psychosexual predators or BDSM serial killers from the 70s? What if it's just trans people wanting to pee without being harassed?
You're right. Nobody in the history of humankind has ever exploited loopholes in policies meant to address a legitimate issue. Women have never been victimized by males pretending to be vulnerable in order to violate women's boundaries. None of the women on these boards have ever experienced such a thing. In addition, girls and women are never shamed and guilt-tripped into tolerating things with which they're deeply uncomfortable.
While you're going about your do-gooding, why don't you create some workshops and trainings to prevent men from harassing and abusing gender non-conforming boys and men?
I support the transgender community. I do not support a creep sitting watching little girls pull their swim suits down exposing their privates... while a creep stares at them. Any trafficker can say they are trans to scope out kids. For those of you want to say that does not happen...you are not keeping up with the trick and ways traffickers work. If you are in a YMCA women's dressing room you do NOT see women sitting and staring at little naked girls...only a creep does that. Trying to not discriminate against someone by discriminating against others is not okay.
What if it's got nothing to do with the forthcoming transhuman metaverse, psychosexual predators or BDSM serial killers from the 70s? What if it's just trans people wanting to pee without being harassed?
You're right. Nobody in the history of humankind has ever exploited loopholes in policies meant to address a legitimate issue. Women have never been victimized by males pretending to be vulnerable in order to violate women's boundaries. None of the women on these boards have ever experienced such a thing. In addition, girls and women are never shamed and guilt-tripped into tolerating things with which they're deeply uncomfortable.
While you're going about your do-gooding, why don't you create some workshops and trainings to prevent men from harassing and abusing gender non-conforming boys and men?
Given that there is certainly no proof of increased danger, what you’re doing is essentially fear mongering.
You're right. Nobody in the history of humankind has ever exploited loopholes in policies meant to address a legitimate issue. Women have never been victimized by males pretending to be vulnerable in order to violate women's boundaries. None of the women on these boards have ever experienced such a thing. In addition, girls and women are never shamed and guilt-tripped into tolerating things with which they're deeply uncomfortable.
While you're going about your do-gooding, why don't you create some workshops and trainings to prevent men from harassing and abusing gender non-conforming boys and men?
Given that there is certainly no proof of increased danger, what you’re doing is essentially fear mongering.
A "predatory and highly manipulative" rapist and paedophile has been jailed for life after a court heard how she used a transgender persona to attack female prisoners.
A "predatory and highly manipulative" rapist and paedophile has been jailed for life after a court heard how she used a transgender persona to attack female prisoners.
A "predatory and highly manipulative" rapist and paedophile has been jailed for life after a court heard how she used a transgender persona to attack female prisoners.
A "predatory and highly manipulative" rapist and paedophile has been jailed for life after a court heard how she used a transgender persona to attack female prisoners.
A "predatory and highly manipulative" rapist and paedophile has been jailed for life after a court heard how she used a transgender persona to attack female prisoners.
Abscence of evidence is not evidence of abscence. However, in this case you're dangerously, disgustingly wrong about there being "no evidence." Plenty of evidence of men, even trans women, raping other women, some in bathrooms. I'm not going to spend all day looking for these cases, these are just the articles I found on the first page of a Google search.
You're right. Nobody in the history of humankind has ever exploited loopholes in policies meant to address a legitimate issue. Women have never been victimized by males pretending to be vulnerable in order to violate women's boundaries. None of the women on these boards have ever experienced such a thing. In addition, girls and women are never shamed and guilt-tripped into tolerating things with which they're deeply uncomfortable.
While you're going about your do-gooding, why don't you create some workshops and trainings to prevent men from harassing and abusing gender non-conforming boys and men?
Given that there is certainly no proof of increased danger, what you’re doing is essentially fear mongering.
You want me to prove to you that allowing males to self-identify into girls and women's only spaces is more dangerous than sex segregation?
How about proof by logic (though you seem to be impervious to logic)? If a man sits on a park bench and exposes his penis to women, he's committing a crime. With a bathroon self-identification policy, that same man can walk into a women's locker room, do the exact same thing, then accuse any woman who reports him of being a bigoted transphobe. This policy literally redefines crimes as non-crimes all based on the perpetrator's subjectivity. The same is true of peeping toms.
In short, it is dangerous to decriminalize some of the most common sex crimes experienced by girls and women.
All fitness clubs with shower facilities (especially with open-pit showers with no privacy) attract the non-heterosexuals like iron on a magnet. The perverts loiter in the locker-room for hours with their cell phones in hand acting like they’re texting or whatnot, even though the video screens are active. And there are signs posted: “No child of the opposite sex over the age of six allowed.” and “No filming allowed.” I wonder why clubs feel the need to post such warnings? It’s sickening.
I stopped complaining years ago. The club staff look horrified whenever anyone complains – as if to say “Don’t you know they’ve got rights?”. "They" sure do. And "they" will use the media to publicly shame anyone who gets in their way. FWIW: It’s not just men in the women’s locker room. We’ve got two women that frequent our men’s locker room every day. The S.F. bay area is forever infested. I wouldn’t undress in any public place under any circumstances, let alone allow my child.
in other words, I dispute your bold claim that dicks "were always there before" in female locker rooms, showers and such.
Did he make such a claim? I seem to have missed it.
There we go again, questioning RunRagged whose “best practice” is to take something not said or entirely out of context and write a couple pages of transphobic blather on an anonymous online forum presumably because no one in the real world would give her any attention (beyond perhaps dickpics as she says).
All fitness clubs with shower facilities (especially with open-pit showers with no privacy) attract the non-heterosexuals like iron on a magnet. The perverts loiter in the locker-room for hours with their cell phones in hand acting like they’re texting or whatnot, even though the video screens are active. And there are signs posted: “No child of the opposite sex over the age of six allowed.” and “No filming allowed.” I wonder why clubs feel the need to post such warnings? It’s sickening.
I stopped complaining years ago. The club staff look horrified whenever anyone complains – as if to say “Don’t you know they’ve got rights?”. "They" sure do. And "they" will use the media to publicly shame anyone who gets in their way. FWIW: It’s not just men in the women’s locker room. We’ve got two women that frequent our men’s locker room every day. The S.F. bay area is forever infested. I wouldn’t undress in any public place under any circumstances, let alone allow my child.
True....I used to jokingly suggest to the owner of Gold's Gym that they sell a locker room only membership....