There has been a direct correlation between advanced drug testing technology and DECREASED performances by the Kenyans. Ethiopia will follow the same trend soon. It's looking like Kenya might have been equally bad as Russia.
You have to be honest with yourself and not put your head in the sand when it comes to certain things. Don't insult everyones intelligence and not include the US here also. I'd wager 90-100% of US athletes were on some type of PED. They use what they can get away with. The sprinters have the hi-test stuff for sure. Kenya and Ethiopia may likely be worse than Russia. Russia had a working anti doping agency in RUSADA which busted a ton. In reality, the US is no better than Russia.
Casual obsever pressed a button, for the same old bs from rekrunner.
Pork ingestion wasn't the most likely source; it was ruled as being against the balance of probability. Expert estimates put it as bring close to zero. Houlihan couldn't produce convincing evidence for her claim so she was deemed to have committed an intentional violation. An excellent result for those opposed to doping.
Unlike Tygart, we are uninterested in how athletes test positive; that they test positive is the only interesting fact. They have the right to present a defence. If it doesn't cut it they have doped. Good.
Hard for anyone to say what the most likely source was without any real evidence. As we know, the WADA Code permits rulings and sanctions based on presumptions against the athlete.
Like Tygart, I am interested in the anti-doping goals of justice for all athletes, including not railroading innocent athletes to 4-year bans.
Casual obsever pressed a button, for the same old bs from rekrunner.
Pork ingestion wasn't the most likely source; it was ruled as being against the balance of probability. Expert estimates put it as bring close to zero. Houlihan couldn't produce convincing evidence for her claim so she was deemed to have committed an intentional violation. An excellent result for those opposed to doping.
Unlike Tygart, we are uninterested in how athletes test positive; that they test positive is the only interesting fact. They have the right to present a defence. If it doesn't cut it they have doped. Good.
Hard for anyone to say what the most likely source was without any real evidence. As we know, the WADA Code permits rulings and sanctions based on presumptions against the athlete.
Like Tygart, I am interested in the anti-doping goals of justice for all athletes, including not railroading innocent athletes to 4-year bans.
Do you honestly believe she had to google what nandrolone was? That she never heard of it before?
Hard for anyone to say what the most likely source was without any real evidence. As we know, the WADA Code permits rulings and sanctions based on presumptions against the athlete.
Like Tygart, I am interested in the anti-doping goals of justice for all athletes, including not railroading innocent athletes to 4-year bans.
Do you honestly believe she had to google what nandrolone was? That she never heard of it before?
I find it quite credible that distance running athletes and coaches focus more on training and racing, rather than remembering drugs by the names used in anti-doping.
Unlike fans who like to gossip and read tabloids about doping, I don't see any strong reason why professional athletes or coaches should have likely heard of "nandrolone" and remembered it by name. Maybe she heard it by other names like "deca", or simply remembered it as "steroids" whenever the topic of other busts came up.
Do you honestly believe she had to google what nandrolone was? That she never heard of it before?
I find it quite credible that distance running athletes and coaches focus more on training and racing, rather than remembering drugs by the names used in anti-doping.
Unlike fans who like to gossip and read tabloids about doping, I don't see any strong reason why professional athletes or coaches should have likely heard of "nandrolone" and remembered it by name. Maybe she heard it by other names like "deca", or simply remembered it as "steroids" whenever the topic of other busts came up.
I do not find it credible that an elite athlete would not know the name of a common substance within the PED world. If you want to believe that then have it your own naive self way.
I always wondered about a slew of no name Africans running prized marathon races in Asia and Arab countries. There are so many of them. Most men under 2:10 marathon and some even close to 2:05 or under. Are the drug test protocols easier to pass in races in these countries?
I always wondered about a slew of no name Africans running prized marathon races in Asia and Arab countries. There are so many of them. Most men under 2:10 marathon and some even close to 2:05 or under. Are the drug test protocols easier to pass in races in these countries?
Seems so to me.
Kenya and Ethiopia hemorrhage long distance runners and they dominate long distance races. What's the probability that Kenyans are the only ones doping? Highly unlikely to me.
Unfortunate name. I’m just waiting to see how Letsrun will class her a “top Kenyan”.
Right, it's racist to point out that Kenya has an enormous doping problem (138 positive from 2004 to 2018) with constant positives every year, but what is it to deny at every occasion that the Kenyan caught is a top Kenyan? Would you call that a doping apologist? These are actual members of Kenyan national teams competing internationally for Kenya. But if you want some "top" Kenyans, how about Asbel Kiprop, Elijah Manangoi, Jemima Sumgong, Rita Jeptoo, Kipyegon Bett, Lawrence Cherono, Wilson Kipsang, ...?
I find it quite credible that distance running athletes and coaches focus more on training and racing, rather than remembering drugs by the names used in anti-doping.
Unlike fans who like to gossip and read tabloids about doping, I don't see any strong reason why professional athletes or coaches should have likely heard of "nandrolone" and remembered it by name. Maybe she heard it by other names like "deca", or simply remembered it as "steroids" whenever the topic of other busts came up.
I do not find it credible that an elite athlete would not know the name of a common substance within the PED world. If you want to believe that then have it your own naive self way.
I don't think it matters either way. Elite athletes are in elite athlete worlds, and may be unaware of what is commonly happening in the PED world.
Remember when lying Renato said Kenyans do not dope and do not benefit from doping? No reason he should not be banned from the sport.
He never said that, you lying scumbag. No reason you shouldn't be banned from this forum.
Yes he did. Then he changed his story after the lie was proven and exposed. You should not attack people who tell the truth. I will not stoop to your level of name calling.
I do not find it credible that an elite athlete would not know the name of a common substance within the PED world. If you want to believe that then have it your own naive self way.
I don't think it matters either way. Elite athletes are in elite athlete worlds, and may be unaware of what is commonly happening in the PED world.
Lol. No surprise there. But, rojo, shouldn't you be arguing that AIU/AKAD/WADA (and later CAS and SFT) got it wrong, and they weren't really doping?
On that note, did Tygart finally respond to you, telling you what he really thinks about Shelburrito?
For a ship that has sailed, it keeps coming back into port.
The WADA Code allowed the AIU to make statistical arguments about a national population rarely testing positive from pork during normal times which may not be applicable in exceptional cases, i.e. global supply issues during a pandemic, and for that matter, may not be wholly truthful or factual.
Shelby claimed that pork ingestion was the most likely source, and this claim remains essentially undisputed by the World Athletics, by the AIU, by the CAS and by the Swiss Courts. The CAS simply ruled that she couldn't prove the source to the burden specified by the WADA Code. No alternative source was found to be more likely.
Tygart is right that the WADA Code railroads athletes to 4-year bans, by removing any benefit of the doubt and treating athletes who do not know how they tested positive the same as intentional cheaters.
Athletes themselves removed any benefit of the doubt by denying they were doing for years or decades and finally coming clean.
Lance's Nike commercial:
What am I on?
I'm on my bike.
Floyd's defense fund.
Marion Jones.
Thise were all a lie at the time and the reason every athlete is now suspect when they have a banned substance in their system. Why should we think the Burrito story is any different?
After working with many Kenyans in the US collegiate program, I have found that cheating is just a way of life in their home country. Not necessarily "doping," but...bending to full on breaking the rules, whether its for jobs, academic integrity - or yes - drugs. That's just what they do - I'm not sure it's seen as "cheating" in Kenya - rather a clever "community effort" to get ahead in life. Doesn't mean it's still not cheating. It's been...frustrating trying to help them assimilate to US culture & understand what "cheating" is.
I coach several Olympian athletes and when Shelby got popped all of them never had heard of nandrolone before. Mind you I'm 100% convinced Shelby is guilty of doping, as well as some others running for Bowerman.
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