Flo-Jo was juiced to the max - why is everyone in denial?

How do they make sure the gauge isn't in a relative dead spot? Wind can swirl around a lot on the ground.

I've always suspected the Carl Lewis/Mike Powell duel too. IIRC some of the jumps were way wind-illegal, but I bet all of them were. Either that or both of them picked exactly the same day to be in lifetime PB shape on multiple jumps

apparently she was on a mix of human growth hormones,and testosterone,possibly turinabol or winstrol as well.yes,she was an obvious doper,but the leval of drug taking is much MUCH worse and more widespread these days than it was in the 80s.i believe her 10.49 was wind aided.

If by "everyone" you mean "almost no one", then possibly, possibly, your post makes sense. Still totally unnecessary though

TV trivia game shows think Flo Jo was the fastest woman ever. Saying otherwise makes you a racist.

You would need a master plan now for such hard-core doping, but not in the 80s. Back then, one could dope to the gills all year long, except right during international competitions, and be totally fine. Recall that of all the juiced East German dopers, only one got ever caught.
Also if you did get caught here, USATF would come to the rescue and cover it up.

All the dominant Eastern European competition at the time was doping and destroying world records and dominating the medals, dating back to the 1970s, so it was inevitable that some Americans--most likely Flo-Jo--started doping, and beating their less naturally talented or worse trained competitors. Where have the Eastern Europeans been since the fall of the USSR? They've either been bad or been caught doping. Flo Jo, however, was capable of that 10.49 under a +2.0 wind as she was not all out and was not pushed that year, except in the 4x4 in Seoul. And women, whether doped or not, can run 10.49, as we'll likely see this year or next with your favorite two Jamaican runners, who were running 10.54 well under the legal wind (only +0.9), which would be very close to 10.49 with +2.0, and many 10.6-10.67s last year. Of the top fourteen performances all-time, eight were run last year or this year already by Elaine Thompson-Herah and Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce. The only others under 10.70 are the doper Marion Jones and the likely doper Carmelita Jeter.

1 10.49 ±0.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1q1 Indianapolis 16.07.1988

2 10.54 +0.9 Elaine Thompson-Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Eugene 21.08.2021

3 10.60 +1.7 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1rA Lausanne 26.08.2021

4 10.61 +1.2 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1 Indianapolis 17.07.1988

4 10.61 -0.6 Elaine Thompson-Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Tokyo 31.07.2021

6 10.62 +1.0 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 21.12.59 1q3 Seoul 24.09.1988

7 10.63 +1.3 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1rA Kingston 05.06.2021

8 10.64 +1.2 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Shanghai 20.09.2009

8 10.64 +1.7 Elaine Thompson-Herah JAM 28.06.92 2rA Lausanne 26.08.2021

10 10.65A +1.1 Marion Jones USA 12.10.75 1 Johannesburg 12.09.1998

10 10.65 +0.6 Elaine Thompson-Herah JAM 28.06.92 1 Zürich 09.09.2021

12 10.67 -0.1 Carmelita Jeter USA 24.11.79 1 Thessaloníki 13.09.2009

12 10.67A -0.4 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Nairobi 07.05.2022

12 10.67 +0.5 Shelly-Ann Fraser-Pryce JAM 27.12.86 1 Paris 18.06.2022

Las Vegas loves people with your betting skills. You're wrong, as usual, BW.

I was there that evening and sat near the LJ runway. It was hot and humid, and there was virtually no wind.

The track and runway were very fast. In fact, Lewis had just a new 100m WR on the track.

I doubt anyone is in denial. It was blatantly obvious.

the doping is vastly more widespread now,and these days athletes line up looking like mutants straight out of a laboratory.they didnt look that bad in the 80s,and the east germans look normal compared to todays sprinters.i think its easier to dope now,because most countries cover it up.

Ok great. So I guess this means Marita Koch owns the female 100 WR too right?

Two things:

1) Flo Jo did in fact run 10.49. Juiced to the gills or not, there wasn't a clock problem there was a lack of wind reading problem. She likely had a +5.0 tailwind. But she still ran 10.49.

2) You don't think SAFP, juiced to the gills or not, in 10.6 form, can't drop that to 10.49 in Eugene, the fastest track in the world? I'm fully expecting a 10.5x and if she gets a +2.0 wind...........we may finally get Flo Jo's records off the books.

I am not in denial so your question is false.

Did the other jumpers set personal bests?

Myricks didn't for his bronze, the 4th place finisher didn't. Incidentally, when Myricks set his personal best, Carl Lewis had a big jump to overtake him. Lewis was a clutch jumper as was Powell; it's a competition one could watch over and over.

Yes, I'm sure if not for the evil Eastern Europeans the Americans would never ever consider cheating. Heaven for fend. It is all someone else's fault.

The uncomfortable truth is...whether its Lance or FloJo, if you are elite and watch as everyone around you dopes and nobody truly polices it...dont you at some point start to think thats just the price of admission at the top? I mean I am cherry picking here as FloJo was around for eastern bloc, and lance was doing his thing against likely universal doping at the top. Those were two extremes. I wonder, how many of us would be able to say no. I feel like its somewhat better now, someone is at least trying, and going back and looking etc... But was this their version of everyone in NASCAR "cheating or your not trying?" If you dont do it... you are not committed enough? I think a lot of dudes took this crazy crap and didnt want to, but they felt they had to and there was an 'understanding". Right?

I don't know whether it's worse or just a natural evolution as nobody but kids and idiots can't see that the women are way more muscular than dopers of the 70's and 80's. Only Roger Daltry (Jarmila) looked like a recent competitor.

Track and field is a freak show...

Just love (sarcasm to the max) twits like you that can't get FloJo out of your brain. She lives there, rent free, torturing you all the time, doesn't she?

I was actually at the IUPUI stadium in Indianapolis, sitting near the upper part of the stands some 20 meters beyond the finish line and watched FloJo set the world record. I can tell you without any equivocation that there is no way, no how, that the wind was anywhere near 5.0-7.0 mps, not even some 20 feet off the ground where I was at in the stands, where winds WOULD BE higher than on the field. I can believe 3-4mps; however, it has been noted that winds were varying from tailwinds to direct crosswinds. This would be winds from directly out of the north & swinging to from the west as Carroll Stadium is a West-to-East configuration. Been to that stadium many times and even competed there a few myself. You are so typical of internet t w a t s that HATE FloJo. I also had the great pleasure of meeting FloJo later that afternoon, stood next to the woman when she graciously signed autographs for many young kids, including autographing a t-shirt for my younger sister. I saw her body from 2 feet from mine, and I can tell tell everyone that she did not look "juiced-to-the-gills", nor did her voice indicate such.

Pi$$ on you FloJo haters. Shame on you.

Well as long as people hold court or sign autographs we should stop criticizing them. Sorry.