Sadie Engelhardt ran 4:36.50 at Brooks (2nd to Juliette Whittaker 4:36.23) and 4:38.40 at Nike for 1st place. Girls Championship mile meet comparisons: Brooks had 9 sub 4:50, New Balance had 8, Nike had 4 and Adidas had ZERO. Adidas had only 3 competitors in the "Girls 1 Mile Run Championship" race
Sadie Engelhardt ran 4:36.50 at Brooks (2nd to Juliette Whittaker 4:36.23) and 4:38.40 at Nike for 1st place. Girls Championship mile meet comparisons: Brooks had 9 sub 4:50, New Balance had 8, Nike had 4 and Adidas had ZERO. Adidas had only 3 competitors in the "Girls 1 Mile Run Championship" race
If we are comparing meets, in the 2 mile girls race:
I believe Sadie raced 3 times at 3 different meets in the span of this last week. That's a lot of racing for anyone, let alone a 9th grader, and all the meets involved traveling out of town. I wonder if the school financially backs all that or if she and her family pay out of pocket.
Sadie Engelhardt ran 4:36.50 at Brooks (2nd to Juliette Whittaker 4:36.23) and 4:38.40 at Nike for 1st place. Girls Championship mile meet comparisons: Brooks had 9 sub 4:50, New Balance had 8, Nike had 4 and Adidas had ZERO. Adidas had only 3 competitors in the "Girls 1 Mile Run Championship" race
If we are comparing meets, in the 2 mile girls race:
Brooks: winner 9:50; 7 under 10:20
NB: 9:56 / 5 under 10:20
Nike: 9:51 / 7 under 10:20
Adidas: 10:19 / 1 under 10:20
Is this thread about Engelhardt’s double?
Or is it about the quality of competition across different meets?
After seeing how Covid played out and being reminded that future opportunities might not actually happen, we decided not to hold back this year and scheduled our kid to a couple more travel meets than we otherwise would have. Maybe her family did the same.
I know two families that regretted not taking their kid to Arcadia a few years back for this reason. “Let’s do it next year when he’s older” doesn’t pan out when the world shuts down, or injuries happen, etc.
I am pretty sure we have never seen such a voracious competitor on the national scene, much less being a freshman.
I am interested in the dynamic where Sadie ran the mile at Nike while Addy ran the 800, was there was any back-and-forth over who did what event, etc.. I thought Addy was done for the season, and Sadie was certainly anything but fresh at that point.
I am interested in the dynamic where Sadie ran the mile at Nike while Addy ran the 800, was there was any back-and-forth over who did what event, etc.. I thought Addy was done for the season, and Sadie was certainly anything but fresh at that point.
Addy definitely not done for the season. Her focus is on the U20s and she saw this as another step there. Check their post race interviews. They both seemed kind of disappointed in their times. Engelhardt said she wanted to run this because she had run it last year and had raced poorly and wanted to redeem herself, but that she was hoping to run faster than 4:38 but wasnt able to get there running alone for most of the race (are we really living in a world where a freshman girl running 4:38 is a disappointing result??) And Wiley said she too was hoping for a faster time but that, in her own words, she "hasnt started peaking yet" which is a pretty audacious thing to say a week after running a 4:26! So their focus seems to be U20s. Certainly Wiley's. Same with Willis and Whittaker who have both said as much.
Does anyone know the record for most times run under 4:40 in a season by a girl? If there is one I have to imagine Sadie has it at this point.
Also, I’m surprised by how long she’s been able to run fast times for. Didn’t she go sub 4:40 for the first time this season in March?
I was thinking the same thing. Here are her races from what I can tell. Someone correct me if I'm off. Of course these are just the sub-4:40s or equivalent. She ran 4:43 on Feb 13 and a dozen or so 800s to go along with 9:50 and 10:00 and a bunch of league meets/qualifiers where she doubled. Apparently, there is no such thing as too much racing for this girl. We have certainly never seen anyone her age race like this. It will be interesting to watch her development.
Feb 19, 4:38.24M, Sundown Track Series #2 March 13, 4:35.82M, New Balance Nationals Indoor March 26, 4:36.60M, Azusa Distance Meet of Champions April 9, 4:35.16M, 2022 Arcadia Invitational May 28, 4:37.67, 102nd CIF State TF Champs Final June 11, 4:11.79 (1500), Portland Track Festival June 15, 4:36.50M, Brooks PR Invitational June 19, 4:38.40M, 2022 Nike Outdoor Nationals
Down boy. Who cares? No taxpayer money is being spent on this. If runners' parents have the money to spend on gas/air fare and hotels and they want to do that, good for them.
The ShoeBrand-sponsored meets usually pay for it. When I went to Brooks PR, the meet paid my way. Same with NXN, so Nike Outdoor may have paid for some of top people too. Apparently some regular-season high profile meets are paying for some top athlete’s travel too.
Even if the meets didn’t pay, who cares? Parents could spend money on wine clubs, so why is it so terrible to instead spend money on fun races for their kids?
I am interested in the dynamic where Sadie ran the mile at Nike while Addy ran the 800, was there was any back-and-forth over who did what event, etc.. I thought Addy was done for the season, and Sadie was certainly anything but fresh at that point.
Addy definitely not done for the season. Her focus is on the U20s and she saw this as another step there. Check their post race interviews. They both seemed kind of disappointed in their times. Engelhardt said she wanted to run this because she had run it last year and had raced poorly and wanted to redeem herself, but that she was hoping to run faster than 4:38 but wasnt able to get there running alone for most of the race (are we really living in a world where a freshman girl running 4:38 is a disappointing result??) And Wiley said she too was hoping for a faster time but that, in her own words, she "hasnt started peaking yet" which is a pretty audacious thing to say a week after running a 4:26! So their focus seems to be U20s. Certainly Wiley's. Same with Willis and Whittaker who have both said as much.
It sounds like U-20s is going to be a veritable firestorm on the girls' side. I thought Brooks PR was the best assemblage of prep talent in history, but Addy was missing. If Whittaker does her usual, and beats them all, however barely, she is my vote for AOY.
Engelhardt is not entered in the U20. Not many HSers signed up.
The favorites in the 1500 appear to be Mia Barnett (UVA), Wiley, and Ellie Shea. None of the other top HS milers are entered.
In the 800 the favorites are Whittaker and Willis and Michaela Rose (LSU). Sophia Gorriaran scratched and was not at nationals either. She might be injured.
Barnett, Kate Peters, and Shea look like the favorites in the 3000.