Simeon MF Birnbaum Runs Sub 4! 5th HS runner this year. Most shocking one ever (4:07 pb)?

Watched this with some of my friends and we were all like "who tf is this kid?" Seemed to come out of nowhere in the last 150.

He ran a 1:51 / 4:15 double to win states beyond that Arcadia win. but nothing to suggest a monster 56-low close for a sub-4

the NCAA descending order list is gonna be bonkers in a few years

Pretty wild we're getting to a point where high schoolers no one really talks about are regularly breaking 4. Like Burns and Birnbaum have already had better HS mile careers than Grant Fisher. Have to imagine that within the next 10 years it will always take a sub-4 mile to be a national champion/leading time

Kid’s out of SouthDakota? Imagine his training conditions, vs the cali sunshine boys.

Yeah, pretty much. This is probably he most random sub 4 ever. 4:08 down to 3:59 as a junior's pretty insane. I wouldn't say it was completely out of nowhere, he's been running for a while, he was a 16:30's guy in 7th grade. Still, he didn't even break 4:20 last year in the 1600, so this is a pretty crazy progression.

When the lead guys let Aaron Sahlman pace the 3rd lap I thought all hope at sub 4 was lost, and as I had guessed they came through at ~3:03. Didn't think I'd see a Daschbach-esque 56sec close from any of those guys, but I guess I had forgotten about Birnbaum's finish at Arcadia. Really impressive stuff. Surprised by Kipyego as well. Hopefully Bergen and Donahue get another chance, I'm really routing for those guys.

Kipyego and Sahlman have it for sure next year, throw them into the list with the Youngs, Heidisch, Caudillo and Hansen, if those two guys don't already do it this year. Class of '23 is easily the greatest ever at this point, and It's not even close. Pretty hard to convince yourself that the shoe's don't have a large effect at this point, though.

Simeon is no surprise to people from South Dakota. Maybe a surprise that he did it in his junior year, but I think most people expected he would go sub 4 in his senior year.

Crazy.

Link? I haven't been able to view the stream.

My bad it is Birnbaum. And link: https://brooks-pr-invitational.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event_id=5619&do=videos&video_id=331292. He closed in 56 too.

I think it really helped having a couple of other guys close to a sub-4 to push him.

Let’s hope it translates to being internationally competitive in 4 years.

What kind of shoes did he wear while doing it?

A track spike roller skate hybrid.

I and the people around me thought they had no chance coming through in 3:03. Martin went through right on pace at 800 and no one was with him. I’ll have to watch the replay, it wasn’t until the last 40m I saw the clock and realized it was possible. Cool to see 4/17 sub-4 milers and 2/3 juniors take a photo together afterwards

Can Runnerspace make it so the videos are embeddable? You'd think Brooks would want this videos on youtube to reach randos.

We merged two threads on the race into 1. The first was called, "Simeon MF Burnbaum Runs Sub 4! 5th HS runner this year." The 2nd was called, "Simeon MF Burnbaum Runs Sub 4! 5th HS runner this year. Most random one ever?"

Makes you tough. Plus the altitude (3000 ft+). And trails in and around Rapid City are great for training.

Wow, cute too!

Bingo.