Here’s a video of the last 45 seconds or so of the mile from Saturday for anyone who’s asked. Thanks to the person who decided to record it and got a good shot. pic.twitter.com/g0krDMaeq2
I just watched the footage posted above. There are most definitely no cones, and in my mind - and probably T&FN - it absolutely DOES NOT count. To me, he is a guy who has broken 5 minutes. Do it with bricks, cones, or an actual rail, and get drug tested afterward, or it is just an exhibition and nothing official. Rules exist. This guy ignores them. Of course, any of you may consider this a sub-4. In fact, all of you do!
It's a prety convoluted rule, IMO. you need a rail if the track is laid out for a curb, but if not, apparently cones make people less likely to run too far inside...but if there's high jump going on at the time, you don't really need a curbing...and if you're emma coburn, you can dance inside the rail all you want and not get DQ'ed.
good question. our league has rules that for any kind of post season meet, if there is not a rail, cones must be present. at least every 5 to 10 meters
USATF: "The nominal length of an outdoor track shall preferably be 400 meters. It shall consist of two straights and two turns. The inside of the track shall be bordered by a raised curb of suitable material approximately 5cm high and 5cm wide. ... If a section of the curb on the curve has to be removed temporarily for field event competitors, its place shall be marked with a white line 5cm wide and by plastic cones or flags (minimum height 20cm) placed on the white line so that the edge of the base of the cone or flag pole coincides with the edge of the white line closest to the track, and placed at intervals not exceeding 4m."
What a ridiculous technicality. If this doesn't count, then neither does that 3:54 on a cinder track or whatever you guys say that Ryun did back in the day. At least there's video evidence of Gary Martin's run. Give me a freaking break
Y’all are bugging on the no rail, no cones: no record. But about the dweeb idiot on the telephone while greatness was on the track in front of him. I hope his wife bitching at h about what to pick up from the grocery shop was worth it. He was only interested in sprint, prolly.
appears there might be cones on the turns which suffice I think?
I just watched the footage posted above. There are most definitely no cones, and in my mind - and probably T&FN - it absolutely DOES NOT count. To me, he is a guy who has broken 5 minutes. Do it with bricks, cones, or an actual rail, and get drug tested afterward, or it is just an exhibition and nothing official. Rules exist. This guy ignores them. Of course, any of you may consider this a sub-4. In fact, all of you do!
USATF: "The nominal length of an outdoor track shall preferably be 400 meters. It shall consist of two straights and two turns. The inside of the track shall be bordered by a raised curb of suitable material approximately 5cm high and 5cm wide. ... If a section of the curb on the curve has to be removed temporarily for field event competitors, its place shall be marked with a white line 5cm wide and by plastic cones or flags (minimum height 20cm) placed on the white line so that the edge of the base of the cone or flag pole coincides with the edge of the white line closest to the track, and placed at intervals not exceeding 4m."
And USATF has no control over the various state HS federations.
I just watched the footage posted above. There are most definitely no cones, and in my mind - and probably T&FN - it absolutely DOES NOT count. To me, he is a guy who has broken 5 minutes. Do it with bricks, cones, or an actual rail, and get drug tested afterward, or it is just an exhibition and nothing official. Rules exist. This guy ignores them. Of course, any of you may consider this a sub-4. In fact, all of you do!
What a ridiculous technicality. If this doesn't count, then neither does that 3:54 on a cinder track or whatever you guys say that Ryun did back in the day. At least there's video evidence of Gary Martin's run. Give me a freaking break
I bet most people here don't even know that tracks built with and without a rail are measured and laid out differently. 400m in lane 1 is measured 30cm from the rail, but only 20cm from the line if there is no rail. Cones are not requires, but the rule says "if cones are used...."