Cade Flatt - 22.01/46.89 Double at Area 1 Championship

Compare that 100m to Clayton Murphy 11.83 in high school. His 400/800 speed ratio is better than speed demon Mark Everett. (or his 800 is heading to 1:45 very soon). This kid may have the best basic speed of any male U.S. 800m runner ever.

Well, he’s gonna break Granville’s record, and 1:45-high isn’t out of the question. Regardless, I think it’s silly to say he’s got the best “basic speed of any male U.S. 800m runner ever.” There’s not nearly enough data to draw a conclusion on just how exceptional his sprint speed is compared with his 800m peers. But look at Brandon Johnson, who ran 10.41 at 17 years old and much later put up his best mark of 1:43.84 at 28, making the WC 800 team that year. It could be that plenty of our 1:42-1:45 type talents were capable of 11.14/22.01 at age 18 if they’d made the effort or been given the chance.

Brandon has one of the most eccentric event progressions I have ever seen (not suspicious, just a little...weird).

For a starting point, at age 18, Brandon had almost the identical 400 PR (46.83) as Cade. Brandon ran the 100 only two years, 10.41 and 10.60 ages 17 and 18. So a true sprinter (his first year of 800 was age 21, 2:02). So while Brandon had better raw speed as a teen, he couldn't come near sub-2:00. What he could do as run the 400H: 48.62 age 19. He never improved this PR for the next seven seasons he ran it. He runs 1:43 at age 28.

So to summarize: he was a pure sprinter in late teens, 400H early 20s, stalled out, then moved up to the 800 in his late 20s. So kind of an outlier compared to almost every 800 runner, ever. Thanks for mentioning this interesting athlete!

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Mark Everett ran 46.37 age 19 +5 months. That was the same year he first ran the 800: 1:47.36. So very close PRs to our boy Cade right now.

Justin Braun ran 10.57 and 46.00 last weekend in Ohio. Would love to see him and Flatt head to head at 400/600. I don't think he's run the 800 in three years, but it would be interesting to see if he's a pure sprinter or has legs up to 800.

Everett had a sub 45 second 400m PR

i called it a month ago, that he could hit 46 low (after watching his 47.04 and 2nd place was like 50 point) and will hit 1:45 high by june

would like to see his 46 400 to see again if it was a huge win and pulling away by 280m. to see the video would be very insightful.

looking at the results its even more impressive

100m
, 11.14

200m
22.01
2nd place was 22.79!

400m
46.89
and look at 2nd place, 50.46!!!

again if he can get in a 400 with the fastest hs guys in the US, a 45 high 46 is not out of the question. thats 3 races, not just some "double" and his team won the 4x4 so i would imagine he ran anchor on that. wonder what he split in the relay

You must of never heard of Earl Jones of Eastern Michigan Univ who ran a 1:43 800 as a 19 yo..same age as Cade. He also ran a 44.9 relay split and a 21.9 indoor..oh and he won the 84 Olympic trials and a bronze medal at the Olympics. IJS

Cade Flatt was born in 2003, but he is still probably 18 years old. This repeated falsehood that he’s 19 is becoming tedious.

He turns 19 in November.

Of course I have heard of Earl, another fast guy. 46.33 FAT. No listed indoor 200. 1:43 almost age 20. Cade is not yet 19. All good. The past is not the enemy of the present.

Cade sure is looking like a near-future 1:43 guy (maybe a couple of years). Let's see how this season shakes out and revisit.

thanks! just like his 47.07, completely running alone. 46.89 is #5 right now in the nation, get him in a race with the other 4 guys faster than him and see what time he drops

I saw the 22.01/46.89 and I wasn't overly impressed, but then I saw he has a 4:12 1600 PR on top of that??? What the heck is his 800? That's like 1:46 material, at minimum 1:47.

^^^ Apparently 1:47.04 according to the google. I'm surprised I'm just now hearing about him.

With his flatt speed in the 200/400, and that 4:12, he has - what I call - world championship speed. Just like with Hocker. They can be there at the end for a medal. Pace pending. Flatt just needs to grow a little older and by the time he's 22, if he's not at worlds, I'll be surprised.

I should clarify, I think his eventual medal potential is in the 1500

800/1500

Reminds me of Ovett