As much as I can't stand covid lunacy and stupidity, this is one of those exceptions where I have to side with restrictions. The science is pretty clear that contracting covid from an organ transplant increases one's risk of death from 15-30% so the restriction in this case makes sense.
However if the kid dies from being unable to find a kidney, then the doctors would have blood on their hands.
As much as I can't stand covid lunacy and stupidity, this is one of those exceptions where I have to side with restrictions. The science is pretty clear that contracting covid from an organ transplant increases one's risk of death from 15-30% so the restriction in this case makes sense.
However if the kid dies from being unable to find a kidney, then the doctors would have blood on their hands.
Nope. The science is not clear. You are believing the avalanche of lies.
As much as I can't stand covid lunacy and stupidity, this is one of those exceptions where I have to side with restrictions. The science is pretty clear that contracting covid from an organ transplant increases one's risk of death from 15-30% so the restriction in this case makes sense.
However if the kid dies from being unable to find a kidney, then the doctors would have blood on their hands.
I don't get it. Can you explain to me why anyone would get Covid from an organ transplant?
Wouldn't the dad get tested for Covid right before giving the organ? Are the tests not accurate? If they aren't, couldn't you require him to do two weeks in isolation before the transplant? Have the dad check into the hospital for two weeks, never leave, and then give up the organ so you know he doesn't have it.
I 100% understand the logic as to why hospitals are requiring the recipients to be vaxxed. Organs are very rare. You don't want to waste them. But in this case, I don't agree at all.
1. It's basically a private transaction between a father and son.
2. If you don't take the dad's organ, the kid is going to have to get it somewhere so you will have one less life saving organ out there.
As much as I can't stand covid lunacy and stupidity, this is one of those exceptions where I have to side with restrictions. The science is pretty clear that contracting covid from an organ transplant increases one's risk of death from 15-30% so the restriction in this case makes sense.
However if the kid dies from being unable to find a kidney, then the doctors would have blood on their hands.
I don't get it. Can you explain to me why anyone would get Covid from an organ transplant?
Wouldn't the dad get tested for Covid right before giving the organ? Are the tests not accurate? If they aren't, couldn't you require him to do two weeks in isolation before the transplant? Have the dad check into the hospital for two weeks, never leave, and then give up the organ so you know he doesn't have it.
I 100% understand the logic as to why hospitals are requiring the recipients to be vaxxed. Organs are very rare. You don't want to waste them. But in this case, I don't agree at all.
1. It's basically a private transaction between a father and son.
2. If you don't take the dad's organ, the kid is going to have to get it somewhere so you will have one less life saving organ out there.
I don't usually respond to mod's or co-founders posts, but for this one I'll make an exception. And you're right. Put the kid on dialysis for a few weeks until his dad's covid issues clear up. What the puck is wrong with some people? Chester W. Nimitz said of those who fought on Iwo Jima, “Uncommon valor was a common virtue.” Where did our country go wrong? Why isn't "Uncommon valor was a common virtue." a thing anymore? Am asking for my brother who served in the Marines during Dessert Storm and he'd donate a kidney to YOU if you needed one.
'I don't get it. Can you explain to me why anyone would get Covid from an organ transplant?'
There is a reason you don't get it. Its not them its you
Organs contain blood and it its infected the kid will get it.
Most parents would die for their kids and refusing a jab billions of people have had without crying about it is pathetic
Last I heard vaccinated people can get COVID too. It is you vaccine-pushers (not vaccine supporters, vaccine-pushing fundamentalists like you) that are pathetic.
1. It's basically a private transaction between a father and son.
Hi rojo - while you perceive it as a private transaction, the surgeon, doctors, etc have a hippocratic oath to uphold and have to make a judgement on the risk to donor and recipient and are a critical part of the transaction. Hospitals and insurance companies weigh in with their economic and operational interests in our for-profit, private health care world, which they must maintain even against threat of lawsuit (and no waiver would ever matter legally - honestly). There are a lot of actors - this transaction is not private unless the dad cuts out his kidney and places it in the son.
I'm not a medical expert nor have I seen any peer reviewed studies, so I cannot comment on the data on mortality or health outcome for donors lacking a COVID vaccine (I've seen a lot of data on recipients - it's extremely clear). However, all the reviews of COVID vaccines show they are extremely safe and any risks are far outweighed by the risk of contracting COVID. So it's possibly related to potential health outcomes of having a single organ (e.g., if you lose your only kidney to a blood clot, you're f---ed, and COVID increases your risk of blood clots).
Honestly, even if I'm suspect that on-balance the vaccination of the donor matters, the reality is I have to believe a smarter person than me has done the math on this. The dad should suck it up and get vaccinated. I have zero sympathy for him - all my sympathy for the kid stuck in the middle.
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