Throws coaches should NEVER be head coach/director.

Sounds like you're salty that the throwers are crushing way more puss than you. I'd recommend hitting some weights, it'll stop you from being some whiny beta lightweight who complains on running message boards about stuff that nobody cares about.

Are there more examples of this happening exclusively in these types of situations? As in, a decreased performance across the board specifically when a Throws Coach is made Head Coach?

I agree 100%, and also every program that hires a distance coach or a sprints coach or a jumps coach to be head coach should fire them immediately as well. Only current/former decathletes and heptathletes who also ran cross country should be head coaches. No one else should be allowed to apply. There should also be a PR minimum point requirement of 7000+ and 4000+ for this group of applicants. If a heptathlete is considered for head coaching she also needs to be able to pole vault (3m PR minimum). Both decathletes and heptathletes also need to have experience throwing the hammer (45m PR minimum). These are the only people who should allowed to be head coaches at any level.

How many times has a team won an NCAA championship with most points coming from the throws?

Ole miss distance seems to have gotten better under a throws coach director? And pretty sure the team is better across the board 🤷‍♂️. The coaching group most likely to hog scholarships is a distance coach. But idiot heads come in all event groups to be sure.

Fact! Anyone who cares about winning a conference championship consistently will balance the lineup. Success breeds success and the bar continues to go up resting in more national qualifiers. More points given to sprinters who by nature can double as relay, hurdles and jumpers. Some at a higher level than conference.

I think about Arkansas with distance & jumpers in the heyday that could beat the sprint schools with incredible quality and depth.

Since longest relay event in college conference and national meets is 4 x 400m, ideally, a college T&F program would want 1/2 a dozen sub-47 400m men and 1/2 a dozen sub-10.4 100m men. A balanced program, all events except 3000mSC, 5000m & 10000m. It's tough to win Track AND Field meets with the best athletes are 3000mSC, 5000m & 10000m athletes.

UCLA women were the runners up a number of times in the early 2000's but I can't remember if they ever won. With Sua, Dumble, Tolson, Soong, Kawar, Noble, etc. the throws were always big point scorers for the Bruins during this timeframe.

That all being said, when Art later took over as head coach from Jeanette, the program did regress.

You just stated how Duke's women won the ACC Outdoors.

Athletics director Mobley was the best we ever had. All-American shot putter but he was always excruciatingly polite to the distance coach. He called him Captain Cassidy. I think they competed together back in the day.

Led us to some big brass at conference.

I am a throw's coach that also runs an entire program. I coach on the high school level so maybe this is a little different. When I first began coaching at my currently school I was brought in to do just throws. For a decade my throws program was the only part of the team that had athletes competing and medaling at the state meet. We did so well one year that our girls program picked up 3rd place overall at a regional meet strictly on the back of the throwers. No points were scored by jumps or runners. My school asked me to head the "field" events, I helped bring in two good jumps coaches, got them to buy into my philosophies while still allowing them to coach how they preferred and it worked out really well. The school noticed the changes and hired me to take over the entire program the following year. I was able to bring in sprints, distance and hurdles specialists. Again was able to take my coaching, training, competing philosophy from throwing, get my coaches to buy in while still allowing them to do what they do best. And it has worked out extremely well. I still spend most of my time with my throwers, but last year both girls and boys programs finished top 3 at the state meet, which included our first non-throwing state champion, 3 in fact (a female long jumper, a male 300 hurdler and our girls' 4x800 team).

So, yeah, throws coaches can get the job done.

“Just look at (1 example)!” is never a sound argument.

How about just hiring a head coach who understands the concept of combined arms warfare and trusts the subordinate commanders to do their jobs. The head coach can then spend more time advocating on behalf of the entire team with the administration and dealing with other outside influences.

I don't think it matters as long as they're aware of their lack of knowledge in other events and let other coaches coach those events. Just like if a sprints coach is the head coach, he's not going to be telling the throws coach how to do his job. And the coach needs to understand where the scholarship allocation needs to go. There's not much overlap in shot/disc/hammer/jav... Usually an athlete is just good at one of them, occasionally you'll have a shot/disc combo. For this reason you wouldn't want more than 1 big scholarship guy in each of those events because you rapidly get diminishing returns. On the other hand a 200 meter runner can run the open 200 and probably either the 4x100 relay or 4x400 relay or maybe even both and possibly an open 100 or open 400 depending on their strengths. A good distance runner could do the 5k/10k double, or a 1500/5k double. Use your scholarships for the most points possible.

2007 ASU women maybe? Virginia got 3rd one year with just throws I remember that getting some letsrunners angry. Would guess the bruins in the 80s but have no clue.

Lets face it, a top level thrower can easily score more points than 2 top distance runners

the longest-serving coach at my high school (late 80's to a couple years ago) was a throws coach and was definitely the best we've had (new coach is probably as good, but he's only been the coach for a couple of years now)

Halter from Mizzou is a throws coach and the director of track. How is the program doing? Would it be better without him in charge?

Quick, everybody Check tfrrs for a program led by a throws coach who has an underperforming distance squad, we’ll find our man.

also, nobody will care about this but at the division 2 and 3 levels programs like lacrosse, grand valley, etc dominate ncaa championships with throws for the last 30 years.

throws coach as head coach can be great, give them selves small group, let them focus on details and hire good assistants they can fund.

if you’re not getting scholarships it’s probably because you’re under performing as a coach.