But...would the Jim Ryun who tried out with a 5:36 or so in a time trial make the team, no. I don't think he would have been allowed on the team. I'm pretty sure they have cuts and wouldn't have taken him.
But...would the Jim Ryun who tried out with a 5:36 or so in a time trial make the team, no. I don't think he would have been allowed on the team. I'm pretty sure they have cuts and wouldn't have taken him.
That could be but it could also be like when Michael Jordan did not make the Varsity hoops team and used that as motivation maybe Jim comes back after being cut and says “I am going to be so good that this coach cannot possibly cut me.” Who knows?
Time machine the sub-4 HS Ryun to California today, and line him up at Woodbridge in super shoes.
Say Nico time machines back to now, too, and the NP team is just nuts. Does Jim even make the trip?
Line him up in those 1960 shoes and the NP group is still watching his back. Maybe the NP will take that next step and drop a 355 mile and we can start having this conversation.
- 10:36 in first varsity race, eventually becoming Wichita East's top runner
- 6th at State meet, leading the team to victory.
- 4:40 self-timed time trial during the winter of his sophomore year
- 4:32.2 loses his first mile race by 0.2 to defending State
- 4:26.5 down 15 meters with 100 to go, Ryun digs deep and finds that kick of his, winning his first mile over Harper.
- 4:21.7 leads from gun to tape for win #2
- 4:21.3 wins again, runs first 880, a leg of winning 2mi relay team
age 16
- wins another mile
- 4:16.2 wins state meet
- 4:08.2 MVAAU loses to college runner, doubles back with 1:54.5 880 (5th)
- 1:53.6 5th again, behind four college kids
- 4:07.8 USTFF 6th to college kids
during the Summer he ran 5 miles at 5:30am. The harder he worked, the more talented he became. Will YOU run 5 miles at 5:30 am this Summer? Will you?
junior year cross country he was undefeated
- 4 mile AAU XC meet against college runners he finished 3rd
- indoor meet at Cow Palace (SF) Lindgren in race. Ryun stubles off track then finishes well back in 9:22.6
- 4:06.4 wins state meet in national hs record time.
- 4:01.7 3rd in Modesto behind Burleson and O'Hara
- 3:59.0 8th in Compton, first ime that 8 runner had beoken 4:00 in the same race, and the first time a hs kid broke 4:00.
- 1:50.3 5th in open competition
- 9:06.5 in KS allcomers
- 3:39.0 4th at AAU 1500m
- 3:46.1 4th NY Randalls Island OT
- 3:41.9 3rd LA Olympic Trials
- 3:44.4 4th Tokyo heats
- 3:55 DFL Tokyo semi
senior year
- 3:58.3 State meet win, first and only sub 4:00 in all hs competition
- 3:56.8 Modesto 3rd behind Snell and Grelle
- 4:04.3 Golden West HS 1st
- 9:04 Golden West HS 1st
- 3:55.3 1st San Diego American Record, defeats Snell
- 3:40.4 2nd US/USSR dual meet
- 3:49.9 1st US/Poland dual meet
- 3:41.6 1st US/Germany
From your post did you notice that Ryun's 2 mile performances were no where near his 1/2 mile & one mile performances? I would hope if a current coach had Jim Ryun, a current high school coach would have made Ryun an 800m specialist. In the weight room and film sessions, fix Ryun's running form. Ryun should have been an 800m medalists, 1968 & 1972. Ryun's training and chasing one mile dreams prevented Ryun from achieving his 800m potential.
Time machine the sub-4 HS Ryun to California today, and line him up at Woodbridge in super shoes.
Say Nico time machines back to now, too, and the NP team is just nuts. Does Jim even make the trip?
Line him up in those 1960 shoes and the NP group is still watching his back. Maybe the NP will take that next step and drop a 355 mile and we can start having this conversation.
We're talking about Woodbridge cross country course which is 3 miles.
- 10:36 in first varsity race, eventually becoming Wichita East's top runner
- 6th at State meet, leading the team to victory.
- 4:40 self-timed time trial during the winter of his sophomore year
- 4:32.2 loses his first mile race by 0.2 to defending State
- 4:26.5 down 15 meters with 100 to go, Ryun digs deep and finds that kick of his, winning his first mile over Harper.
- 4:21.7 leads from gun to tape for win #2
- 4:21.3 wins again, runs first 880, a leg of winning 2mi relay team
age 16
- wins another mile
- 4:16.2 wins state meet
- 4:08.2 MVAAU loses to college runner, doubles back with 1:54.5 880 (5th)
- 1:53.6 5th again, behind four college kids
- 4:07.8 USTFF 6th to college kids
during the Summer he ran 5 miles at 5:30am. The harder he worked, the more talented he became. Will YOU run 5 miles at 5:30 am this Summer? Will you?
junior year cross country he was undefeated
- 4 mile AAU XC meet against college runners he finished 3rd
- indoor meet at Cow Palace (SF) Lindgren in race. Ryun stubles off track then finishes well back in 9:22.6
- 4:06.4 wins state meet in national hs record time.
- 4:01.7 3rd in Modesto behind Burleson and O'Hara
- 3:59.0 8th in Compton, first ime that 8 runner had beoken 4:00 in the same race, and the first time a hs kid broke 4:00.
- 1:50.3 5th in open competition
- 9:06.5 in KS allcomers
- 3:39.0 4th at AAU 1500m
- 3:46.1 4th NY Randalls Island OT
- 3:41.9 3rd LA Olympic Trials
- 3:44.4 4th Tokyo heats
- 3:55 DFL Tokyo semi
senior year
- 3:58.3 State meet win, first and only sub 4:00 in all hs competition
- 3:56.8 Modesto 3rd behind Snell and Grelle
- 4:04.3 Golden West HS 1st
- 9:04 Golden West HS 1st
- 3:55.3 1st San Diego American Record, defeats Snell
- 3:40.4 2nd US/USSR dual meet
- 3:49.9 1st US/Poland dual meet
- 3:41.6 1st US/Germany
From your post did you notice that Ryun's 2 mile performances were no where near his 1/2 mile & one mile performances? I would hope if a current coach had Jim Ryun, a current high school coach would have made Ryun an 800m specialist. In the weight room and film sessions, fix Ryun's running form. Ryun should have been an 800m medalists, 1968 & 1972. Ryun's training and chasing one mile dreams prevented Ryun from achieving his 800m potential.
Maybe but did you notice that Jim was doing pretty well in the mile? Like he really was pretty good at the mile.
- 10:36 in first varsity race, eventually becoming Wichita East's top runner
- 6th at State meet, leading the team to victory.
- 4:40 self-timed time trial during the winter of his sophomore year
- 4:32.2 loses his first mile race by 0.2 to defending State
- 4:26.5 down 15 meters with 100 to go, Ryun digs deep and finds that kick of his, winning his first mile over Harper.
- 4:21.7 leads from gun to tape for win #2
- 4:21.3 wins again, runs first 880, a leg of winning 2mi relay team
age 16
- wins another mile
- 4:16.2 wins state meet
- 4:08.2 MVAAU loses to college runner, doubles back with 1:54.5 880 (5th)
- 1:53.6 5th again, behind four college kids
- 4:07.8 USTFF 6th to college kids
during the Summer he ran 5 miles at 5:30am. The harder he worked, the more talented he became. Will YOU run 5 miles at 5:30 am this Summer? Will you?
junior year cross country he was undefeated
- 4 mile AAU XC meet against college runners he finished 3rd
- indoor meet at Cow Palace (SF) Lindgren in race. Ryun stubles off track then finishes well back in 9:22.6
- 4:06.4 wins state meet in national hs record time.
- 4:01.7 3rd in Modesto behind Burleson and O'Hara
- 3:59.0 8th in Compton, first ime that 8 runner had beoken 4:00 in the same race, and the first time a hs kid broke 4:00.
- 1:50.3 5th in open competition
- 9:06.5 in KS allcomers
- 3:39.0 4th at AAU 1500m
- 3:46.1 4th NY Randalls Island OT
- 3:41.9 3rd LA Olympic Trials
- 3:44.4 4th Tokyo heats
- 3:55 DFL Tokyo semi
senior year
- 3:58.3 State meet win, first and only sub 4:00 in all hs competition
- 3:56.8 Modesto 3rd behind Snell and Grelle
- 4:04.3 Golden West HS 1st
- 9:04 Golden West HS 1st
- 3:55.3 1st San Diego American Record, defeats Snell
- 3:40.4 2nd US/USSR dual meet
- 3:49.9 1st US/Poland dual meet
- 3:41.6 1st US/Germany
From your post did you notice that Ryun's 2 mile performances were no where near his 1/2 mile & one mile performances? I would hope if a current coach had Jim Ryun, a current high school coach would have made Ryun an 800m specialist. In the weight room and film sessions, fix Ryun's running form. Ryun should have been an 800m medalists, 1968 & 1972. Ryun's training and chasing one mile dreams prevented Ryun from achieving his 800m potential.
You do realize Ryun set the American record in the two mile
Ryun would be the top miler/800m runner on Newbury in todays spikes and tracks. He would be scoring on their varsity XC team (3rd or 4th man probably).