Amos going independent? Is this even possible?

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2 years ago 03/23/2022 1:38am EDT

Nigel Amos posted the following

Nijel Amos quits Botswana!
NIJEL AMOS WRITES
""Please include me in your prayers for my next phase as a professional athlete. Sadly, I am pursuing going into the scene as an independent athlete - it’s what’s best for my family and I. When you don’t feel appreciated and undermined you got to stand for yourself. Botswana National Olympic Committee thank you so much for all the years you have been in my corner, just hope it was not the fake support Iike I see now. Let fire performance begins 🙏🏾 #World champion in the making. Can’t put greatness down 💪🪜🙏🏾""

So can he just drop his country and run World Champs and Olympics as an Independent Athlete? I know there is the whole Authorized Neutral Athlete but that is about clean athletes that have been cleared to complete since their Federation is serving a doping issue suspension.

SO what is going on here?

2 years ago 03/23/2022 3:02am EDT

re: not my real names

No he can't, unless he gets approval from World Athletics and that seems unlikely.

2 years ago 03/23/2022 10:20am EDT

re: not my real names

First step to his 1:39 world record is going independent. He will have a new kingdom soon.

2 years ago 03/23/2022 10:30am EDT

re: not my real names

I mean Nijel Amos has done so many PED's he's just lost his mind. Reminds me of Reyes Estevez right now.

"Going independent"? - good luck mate, good luck.

2 years ago 03/23/2022 5:13pm EDT

re: not my real names

He can't run Oly or WC but otherwise, what rule states you have to belong to one of WA's member federations? Those championships are run by WA, but not every race in the world is. Training and racing completely legal. No out-of-competition testing either, since you're not on anyone's list. Just have to be ready after the race. Great way to dodge some regs and random hassles.

2 years ago 03/23/2022 6:37pm EDT

re: well.....

well..... wrote:
He can't run Oly or WC but otherwise, what rule states you have to belong to one of WA's member federations? Those championships are run by WA, but not every race in the world is. Training and racing completely legal. No out-of-competition testing either, since you're not on anyone's list. Just have to be ready after the race. Great way to dodge some regs and random hassles.

So even if he's living in someplace in the US, USADA/WADA can't test him? That doesn't sound quite right.

2 years ago 03/24/2022 1:23pm EDT

re: well.....

well..... wrote:
No out-of-competition testing either, since you're not on anyone's list. Just have to be ready after the race. Great way to dodge some regs and random hassles.

That's not how out of competition drug testing works. If you are one of the fastest runners in the world you will still be drug tested by one organization or another. You can't completely skip it altogether just because you are no longer representing your country.

2 years ago 03/24/2022 3:48pm EDT

re: Lets All Quit Our Country

In order to be in a testing pool, some organization has to put you on a list. No national federation will if you're not a member of one. USATF isn't going to put you in theirs just because you're training in Flag. Why isn't Newbury Park ever tested? Because they belong to no federation, that's why.

2 years ago 03/25/2022 1:11pm EDT

re: not my real names

I read into this more as a plea for some other country to take him in. Surely Qatar will take him, at worst. At best, the good ol USA.

2 years ago 03/25/2022 9:44pm EDT

re: well.....

well..... wrote:
In order to be in a testing pool, some organization has to put you on a list. No national federation will if you're not a member of one. USATF isn't going to put you in theirs just because you're training in Flag. Why isn't Newbury Park ever tested? Because they belong to no federation, that's why.

He'll still be subject to testing if he wants to race in big meets.

2 years ago 04/02/2022 5:16pm EDT

re: Kenaneeser Beckelay

Kenaneeser Beckelay wrote:
I read into this more as a plea for some other country to take him in. Surely Qatar will take him, at worst. At best, the good ol USA.

Yep, Quatar will take him in and he'll run 1:38 in the Paris final, maybe even double the 1500m. The collective response from the LetsRun demographic will cause a worldwide shortage of tissue paper.

2 years ago 04/02/2022 5:24pm EDT

re: well.....

well..... wrote:
In order to be in a testing pool, some organization has to put you on a list. No national federation will if you're not a member of one. USATF isn't going to put you in theirs just because you're training in Flag. Why isn't Newbury Park ever tested? Because they belong to no federation, that's why.

Wrong. Ever heard of the AIU? The Athletics Integrity Unit, which serves as track and field’s independent anti-doping watchdog would certainly test Amos if he's in a country accessible to testers.

2 years ago 04/02/2022 7:48pm EDT

re: King Amos

King Amos wrote:
First step to his 1:39 world record is going independent. He will have a new kingdom soon.

Amos is in many ways the 800 GOAT with his 1:41's so many years apart, and so many 1:42's it became commonplace.

2 years ago 04/02/2022 8:33pm EDT

re: Bad Wigins

Bad Wigins wrote:
King Amos wrote:
First step to his 1:39 world record is going independent. He will have a new kingdom soon.
Amos is in many ways the 800 GOAT with his 1:41's so many years apart, and so many 1:42's it became commonplace.

He’s really not. Just looking at sub-1:43 performances Amos isn’t even close:

Kipketer - 20 (4 sub-1:42)

Rudisha - 16 (7 sub-1:42)

Amos - 7 (2 sub-1:42)

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2 years ago 04/03/2022 4:53am EDT

Bad Wigins wrote:
poor memory wrote:
He’s really not. Just looking at sub-1:43 performances Amos isn’t even close:
Kipketer - 20 (4 sub-1:42)
Rudisha - 16 (7 sub-1:42)
Amos - 7 (2 sub-1:42)
idiot. "so many years apart."
Kipketer and Rudisha both had very short peaks. Amos was fast for a long time.

You said Amos ran so many 1:42s that it became commonplace. He ran 1:42 five times.

Rudisha and Kipketer were both fast for a long time. They broke 1:44 nine and ten years in a row, respectively.

Amos running 1:41s seven years apart is impressive but it doesn’t make him the 800 GOAT.

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