Grant Fisher in the indoor 5000m right now would very likely medal and possibly win a gold medal. For a guy who has never won a global medal this seems like a strange choice to me.
Do you think Fisher is making a mistake by not striking while the iron is hot and racing indoors worlds this season?
Don't you think he could medal for indoor 3k though?
Maybe, but he's more of a 5k-10k guy at this point, and the 3k is very stacked. He'd have to beat 3 of Barega, Girma, Aregawi, Mechaal, and Krop just to get a bronze.
Those are not good odds and I don't think an indoor bronze medal is really worth it anyway.
Maybe he wouldn't win a medal there, but he is throwing away a chance at one. The indoor field could be quite strong with the 7:20s runners in there, but why not him now? Outdoors, however, he is a contender and was 5th in a hot, humid 10k and a bit worse in the 5k, and that was because the team trained in conditions to prepare for Tokyo in Hawaii. Now, the question is what it's going to be like in Eugene in July. Could be well over 100 degrees on the track, but he could also luck out and get ideal conditions. However, that won't happen for the 10000m, which is taking place at a bizarre 1 p.m., according to World Athletics. Then the 5000m prelim is at 6:10 "local time" and then a 6:05 final. I really hope that is an error and they're after 9 p.m., but that would put the 200m as late as 10:50, so I doubt it.
The weather in Eugene last July ranged from a high of 79 to a high of 95! Low temperature was typically in the 50s, low of 50 in the month up to 64. If they held the 5 and 10 after 9 p.m., the weather might be good, but it would be very good if they held them early in the morning before the sun was high in the sky.
On the other hand, it's not unlikely that several of those athletes will be dq'd for going inside the 1st lane or at the start, especially if they have heats and finals, to judge by last world indoor, euro indoor, and the last meet at the same track in Serbia. So, if you make it without a dq, your chances of medaling are probably 50%.
On the other hand, it's not unlikely that several of those athletes will be dq'd for going inside the 1st lane or at the start, especially if they have heats and finals, to judge by last world indoor, euro indoor, and the last meet at the same track in Serbia. So, if you make it without a dq, your chances of medaling are probably 50%.
Hmm idk that seems like a difficult thing to plan for. Maybe I personally just don't care enough about world indoor.
When has Grant ever showed the ability to close a low 7:30’s 3k in 25? That I what it will take to medal or at least having the ability to do so. Grant is running very well right now, and he has good speed, but put him against Hocker in a 3k or even Beamish and I think he would lose. This is based on what he has shown at this point of his career. Closing a 12:53 5,000m in 3:57 is not the same as running a 25 last lap. Put some respect on the Ethiopians.
Maybe, but he's more of a 5k-10k guy at this point, and the 3k is very stacked. He'd have to beat 3 of Barega, Girma, Aregawi, Mechaal, and Krop just to get a bronze.
Those are not good odds and I don't think an indoor bronze medal is really worth it anyway.
Maybe he should ask Ryan Hill what his medal meant to him.
Maybe, but he's more of a 5k-10k guy at this point, and the 3k is very stacked. He'd have to beat 3 of Barega, Girma, Aregawi, Mechaal, and Krop just to get a bronze.
Those are not good odds and I don't think an indoor bronze medal is really worth it anyway.
Maybe he should ask Ryan Hill what his medal meant to him.
I imagine Ryan Hill would have traded his medal for an American record in the 10k. Again, my personal perception is that indoor medals are not that important.
I imagine Ryan Hill would have traded his medal for an American record in the 10k. Again, my personal perception is that indoor medals are not that important.
Why is that a trade-off? Did Hill have any chance to break AR, let alone 10k?
I imagine Ryan Hill would have traded his medal for an American record in the 10k. Again, my personal perception is that indoor medals are not that important.
Why is that a trade-off? Did Hill have any chance to break AR, let alone 10k?
It's a trade-off for Grant. He chose to pursue the 10k record during his March peak instead of pursuing an indoor medal.
Maybe he wouldn't win a medal there, but he is throwing away a chance at one. The indoor field could be quite strong with the 7:20s runners in there, but why not him now? Outdoors, however, he is a contender and was 5th in a hot, humid 10k and a bit worse in the 5k, and that was because the team trained in conditions to prepare for Tokyo in Hawaii. Now, the question is what it's going to be like in Eugene in July. Could be well over 100 degrees on the track, but he could also luck out and get ideal conditions. However, that won't happen for the 10000m, which is taking place at a bizarre 1 p.m., according to World Athletics. Then the 5000m prelim is at 6:10 "local time" and then a 6:05 final. I really hope that is an error and they're after 9 p.m., but that would put the 200m as late as 10:50, so I doubt it.
The weather in Eugene last July ranged from a high of 79 to a high of 95! Low temperature was typically in the 50s, low of 50 in the month up to 64. If they held the 5 and 10 after 9 p.m., the weather might be good, but it would be very good if they held them early in the morning before the sun was high in the sky.
In the recent LRC podcast Fisher pointed out that he likes hot weather and had no problem having the 10 held at 1 pm. He thinks his chances improve under adverse conditions rather than worsen. He’s confident in his speed and ability to kick off a slower and hotter pace than to keep up in a perfect conditions TT type race.
The indoor medals are all devalued by a lack of interest and participation. Fisher should do whatever he needs to do to be in perfect shape to run in July. Everything else is unimportant.
Maybe he wouldn't win a medal there, but he is throwing away a chance at one. The indoor field could be quite strong with the 7:20s runners in there, but why not him now? Outdoors, however, he is a contender and was 5th in a hot, humid 10k and a bit worse in the 5k, and that was because the team trained in conditions to prepare for Tokyo in Hawaii. Now, the question is what it's going to be like in Eugene in July. Could be well over 100 degrees on the track, but he could also luck out and get ideal conditions. However, that won't happen for the 10000m, which is taking place at a bizarre 1 p.m., according to World Athletics. Then the 5000m prelim is at 6:10 "local time" and then a 6:05 final. I really hope that is an error and they're after 9 p.m., but that would put the 200m as late as 10:50, so I doubt it.
The weather in Eugene last July ranged from a high of 79 to a high of 95! Low temperature was typically in the 50s, low of 50 in the month up to 64. If they held the 5 and 10 after 9 p.m., the weather might be good, but it would be very good if they held them early in the morning before the sun was high in the sky.
In the recent LRC podcast Fisher pointed out that he likes hot weather and had no problem having the 10 held at 1 pm. He thinks his chances improve under adverse conditions rather than worsen. He’s confident in his speed and ability to kick off a slower and hotter pace than to keep up in a perfect conditions TT type race.
The indoor medals are all devalued by a lack of interest and participation. Fisher should do whatever he needs to do to be in perfect shape to run in July. Everything else is unimportant.
Kick off a slower race on a hot day, not “slower and hotter pace…..”
He can probably afford to pass up indoors. He's so much better than every other American 5/10 guy that he'll make every team. I think Mantz was crazy to pass up the opportunity, he's not as good as Fisher and he could easily go his whole career without making a team. I still think Fisher's medal chances are about the same indoors and outdoors
I think putting himself in a global championship and racing to WIN would provide valuable experience and mentally have him ready to rock in future global championships. He’s putting up times that mean he is one of the best in the world. He needs to get out of his comfort zone and race for the WIN.
The 3k field is probably collectively breathing a sigh of relief not having to race a 12:53/26:33 guy.
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