EPOVAR - What Is It and Does It Work?

It's not illegal to sell, just illegal to use if you are an elite runner. Or a runner of any sort who wins races. EPO is marketed and sold to cancer patients going through chemotherapy to increase red blood cell counts. They are just marketing it where they think it will sell. It is EPO. Pretty smart marketing director if i say so myself.

actually, contains no EPO.

mostly Magnesium, Arginine, and Potassium

I'm pretty sure EPO has to be injected. EPOVAR is an oral supplement, no?

EPOVAR is not EPO. EPOVAR is a supplement. I think it is mostly magnesium and some other trace minerals. It is a far cry from EPO.

One is legal, the other is not. Which do you think will make performances better? Most anything thats "good" as far as making people faster by popping a pill or injecting something is illegal.

Yeah, because selling controlled substances without a Rx is perfectly legal.

try again wrote:

EPOVAR is not EPO. EPOVAR is a supplement. I think it is mostly magnesium and some other trace minerals. It is a far cry from EPO.

One is legal, the other is not. Which do you think will make performances better? Most anything thats "good" as far as making people faster by popping a pill or injecting something is illegal.

All their ads claim it's legal. Just FYI.

I dont get why you posted that? You replied to me, so surely you read what I posted. "One is legal, the other is not." We know EPO is not legal. What does that leave for the only other item discussed?

try again wrote:

EPOVAR is not EPO. EPOVAR is a supplement. I think it is mostly magnesium and some other trace minerals. It is a far cry from EPO.

One is legal, the other is not. Which do you think will make performances better? Most anything thats "good" as far as making people faster by popping a pill or injecting something is illegal.

So Fizogen claiming EPOVAR increases VO2 Max by 82% has to be complete bullshit, right?

Does R/T not have enough scruples to turn down the $ and not offer Ad space for this crap? Naive, I know.

I gave in and tried EPOVAR and can't say I've seen any difference at all. The first time I did a track w/o after buying I had a good w/o, but I can't say it was due to the suppliment. Also since then I can't tell a big differnce in my training runs.

Save your cash.

My local GNC couldn't unload the stuff so they had it reduced. I figured it was worth a shot. Didn't notice a difference at all. Save your money or invest it in a good pair of shoes.

That might explain why they included samples in the race packets at the Portland marathon.

That crazy guy from ND, said that the team was taking Eopvar, didn't he? They just got 3rd at NCAA

I have replied to the same question numerous times. Hopefully, I can be of help.

I have tried every crazy thing suggested on this message board (no joke).

*Minimalist Shoes

*Heavy, Clunky Trainers

*Epovar

And numerous others things.

So far--the 2 the 2 that have worked the best:

EPOVAR

Minimalist shoes.

I am what Joggers World would call a "heavy runner". But I still have a little juice for being tall, with muscles.

I went through 1 cycle with Epovar--and saw a substantial improvement in my running (times and intensity). I went from 22:01 5K to 19:30. In that time--I was able to increase my mileage/workout intensity. Now, I wasn't sure what impact the Epovar had--so I went through another cycle. I was still able to improve significantly (from 19:30 5k to 17:44 5k).

Now--I am fully willing to admit that it could be the placebo effect. But there are a lot of times that I feel that the Epovar helped.

Take that for what it is worth.

The minimalist work helped as well. I am not sure how these 2 instances impacted each other.

Nikki Sixx wrote:

I went through 1 cycle with Epovar--and saw a substantial improvement in my running (times and intensity). I went from 22:01 5K to 19:30. In that time--I was able to increase my mileage/workout intensity. Now, I wasn't sure what impact the Epovar had--so I went through another cycle. I was still able to improve significantly (from 19:30 5k to 17:44 5k).

Now--I am fully willing to admit that it could be the placebo effect. But there are a lot of times that I feel that the Epovar helped.

Take that for what it is worth.

Yes, but did EPOVAR raise your VO2 Max by 82%?

Could someone explain how this is even possible in an already competive, conditioned, adult athlete?

If someone had a crappy VO2 of say 50, according to the company, EPOVAR wil take that number up to the mid 80s. Is there any possible way they have legitimate science to back up this claim? And if not, shouldn't the FDA or some other federal authority be able to call them on it?

Supplements are not regulated by the FDA. That is why companies are able to make whatever claim they want.

And no, not for one second do I believe that without special circumstances (i.e. the person was Mg deficeint) that EPOVAR, a glorified vitamin, would increase VO2 Max by 82%.

You have to be carefull how they word things, they probably stated something like \"increase in vo2 max went up by 80%\" actually meaning that in a training enviroment there was an 80% acceleration on vo2 max adaption. Nearly impossible to prove or disprove such small numbers that they can state what ever they want and get away with it.

let me help you with this

who the fvck is Fizogen?

this is just crap for dumb asses who think that they might be getting something like epo.

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what is there to understand here?

would you like to buy my Chevrollete Carvette?

No but I will buy your cruck.

mother clucker wrote:

let me help you with this

who the fvck is Fizogen?

this is just crap for dumb asses who think that they might be getting something like epo.

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what is there to understand here?

would you like to buy my Chevrollete Carvette?

A 3 year old thread revived - very unusual.

I want to believe Running Times won't take ad $ from complete charlatans. But I'm probably naive.