A great sprinter, one of the best of his generation.
Why would his legacy be in doubt? He served his ban, he performed when it mattered.
Rubbish - he's a great big steaming cheat, who got caught, bleated like a baby when he did get caught, served a ban, then decided to continue cheating having nothing.
His "legacy" isnot due to talent and hard work, butdue to himbeing a cheat.
Not in pork production. It's illegal in the US to use it for pig farming and during Shelby's arbitration, they sourced the meat and the factory/farm the pig was harvested at was not using it. This was all made apparent during the Burritogate sage. It's almost like your trolling now....
Just saying that the drug is used both in sport and animals even though banned in both.
ARE illegal drugs used in US livestock? Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true.
FYI If you are caught adding drugs prohibited by the USDA to your livestock, the consequences are much, much more severe than in being caught in professional sports - massive fines, product seizures, recalls, and potential debarment of employees, farms, factories, and companies. Jail is even an option, and lets not forget about reputationally harm hurting sales. The financial, economic, and professional consequences are much more dire and harder to circumvent.
We need to approach the sport, especially sprinting, with the same skepticism as we do cycling. The whole sport reeks. WADA, USADA etc hang one individual out to dry every few years to distract from the fact that everyone is on something that either toes the line of legality or is completely over it.
+1
Here is the list of all sub-9.8 sprinters: 9.58 Bolt (doped teammate) - Jam 9.69 Blake - doped - Jam 9.69 Gay - doped - US 9.72 Powell - doped - Jam 9.74 Gatlin - doped - US 9.76 Coleman (banned for 3 whereabout failures in 12 months) - US 9.77 Bromell (doped teammate) - US 9.77 Omanyala – doped - Ken 9.78 Carter – doped - Jam 9.78 (DQ) Montgomery – doped - US 9.79 (DQ) Johnson – doped - Can 9.79 Greene – doped - US
While not everyone on this list has actually failed a test, I was going to post a comment very much similar to yours. This is what absolutely *everyone* misses when it comes to Gatlin and the state of sprinting. I never see anyone criticize Tyson Gay or Asafa or Yohan Blake, who have all served PED bans. And the rest either have failed tests or have had close associations with PED users or distributors. Gatlin has gotten more hatred than any other sprinter in history, and yet his history with PED use is simply not too different from anyone who has ever run sub 9.80 under normal conditions.
His first ban was for ADHD medication he was taking while he was a college student. After his second ban he was one of the most tested athletes on the planet. And yet is the only sprinter of the recent era to have the public hate him so much. And he always comes across as a polite and driven guy. He cheated, but he is no Lance Armstrong. The way he got booed when he won the 2017 World Championships was simply tragic and he handled it with class. Much more class than the people posting on this board have
Just saying that the drug is used both in sport and animals even though banned in both.
ARE illegal drugs used in US livestock? Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true.
FYI If you are caught adding drugs prohibited by the USDA to your livestock, the consequences are much, much more severe than in being caught in professional sports - massive fines, product seizures, recalls, and potential debarment of employees, farms, factories, and companies. Jail is even an option, and lets not forget about reputationally harm hurting sales. The financial, economic, and professional consequences are much more dire and harder to circumvent.
Why do you limit your parameters to the USA ; there is a very big world out there.
ARE illegal drugs used in US livestock? Just because you say something doesn't mean it's true.
FYI If you are caught adding drugs prohibited by the USDA to your livestock, the consequences are much, much more severe than in being caught in professional sports - massive fines, product seizures, recalls, and potential debarment of employees, farms, factories, and companies. Jail is even an option, and lets not forget about reputationally harm hurting sales. The financial, economic, and professional consequences are much more dire and harder to circumvent.
Why do you limit your parameters to the USA ; there is a very big world out there.
Because Ding Dong -
1.) We are talking about US athletes 2.) The US has come of the more lax regs concerning drugs use in livestock
Here is the list of all sub-9.8 sprinters: 9.58 Bolt (doped teammate) - Jam 9.69 Blake - doped - Jam 9.69 Gay - doped - US 9.72 Powell - doped - Jam 9.74 Gatlin - doped - US 9.76 Coleman (banned for 3 whereabout failures in 12 months) - US 9.77 Bromell (doped teammate) - US 9.77 Omanyala – doped - Ken 9.78 Carter – doped - Jam 9.78 (DQ) Montgomery – doped - US 9.79 (DQ) Johnson – doped - Can 9.79 Greene – doped - US
While not everyone on this list has actually failed a test, I was going to post a comment very much similar to yours. This is what absolutely *everyone* misses when it comes to Gatlin and the state of sprinting. I never see anyone criticize Tyson Gay or Asafa or Yohan Blake, who have all served PED bans. And the rest either have failed tests or have had close associations with PED users or distributors. Gatlin has gotten more hatred than any other sprinter in history, and yet his history with PED use is simply not too different from anyone who has ever run sub 9.80 under normal conditions.
His first ban was for ADHD medication he was taking while he was a college student. After his second ban he was one of the most tested athletes on the planet. And yet is the only sprinter of the recent era to have the public hate him so much. And he always comes across as a polite and driven guy. He cheated, but he is no Lance Armstrong. The way he got booed when he won the 2017 World Championships was simply tragic and he handled it with class. Much more class than the people posting on this board have
I agree with much of this.
Gatlin was treated much more harshly than other convicted doped athletes.
His first ban was a farce and should have been expunged.
His second ban should have been the first offense, and only 2 years.
Hate him all you want for the second ban, but Gatlin served way more time than others for a similar offense, and if you are still gonna boo him, you should be booing a lot more athletes too.
While not everyone on this list has actually failed a test, I was going to post a comment very much similar to yours. This is what absolutely *everyone* misses when it comes to Gatlin and the state of sprinting. I never see anyone criticize Tyson Gay or Asafa or Yohan Blake, who have all served PED bans. And the rest either have failed tests or have had close associations with PED users or distributors. Gatlin has gotten more hatred than any other sprinter in history, and yet his history with PED use is simply not too different from anyone who has ever run sub 9.80 under normal conditions.
His first ban was for ADHD medication he was taking while he was a college student. After his second ban he was one of the most tested athletes on the planet. And yet is the only sprinter of the recent era to have the public hate him so much. And he always comes across as a polite and driven guy. He cheated, but he is no Lance Armstrong. The way he got booed when he won the 2017 World Championships was simply tragic and he handled it with class. Much more class than the people posting on this board have
I agree with much of this.
Gatlin was treated much more harshly than other convicted doped athletes.
His first ban was a farce and should have been expunged.
His second ban should have been the first offense, and only 2 years.
Hate him all you want for the second ban, but Gatlin served way more time than others for a similar offense, and if you are still gonna boo him, you should be booing a lot more athletes too.
I agree; there is a Cricketer with a doping ban who just died after a visit from “afternoon. ladies “ who is being given a State Funeral.
I can't believe some people view Jonathan's piece as a hit piece on Gatlin. Far from it. As others have noted, I've defended him from the boos when he came back. I didn't like how he was made to be a scapegoat.
And after reading the piece, I think there's a real good chance he was sabotaged. I also think there is a real good chance he was doping given who was coaching him at the time.
We had Jonathan reach out to Gatlin as I'd love to hear his story. He's apologized but we don't know for what. It's possible he was a) doping b) sabotaged at the same time. We'd like to know what really happened.
I can't believe some people view Jonathan's piece as a hit piece on Gatlin. Far from it. As others have noted, I've defended him from the boos when he came back. I didn't like how he was made to be a scapegoat.
And after reading the piece, I think there's a real good chance he was sabotaged. I also think there is a real good chance he was doping given who was coaching him at the time.
We had Jonathan reach out to Gatlin as I'd love to hear his story. He's apologized but we don't know for what. It's possible he was a) doping b) sabotaged at the same time. We'd like to know what really happened.
Gatlin's exit is a reminder that US sport is mainly a squad of third-rate talents who have to cheat to succeed. And these dopers and liars are aided and abetted by some of the most "respected" coaches and brands. It may not be a state-sponsored program, but it's sure systemic and wide-reaching. And, of course, America loves it's cheaters.