New Zealand has had 65 Covid deaths in total while the US has had nearly 1 million. Things are clearly dire in New Zealand. But if the CDC advice means Americans don't visit - who's complaining?
So you believe these figures? Talk about gullible.
If they are true though, who cares? The population is still going up. It's statistically irrelevant.
If the media never covered covid we wouldn't even know there was a 'pandemic'.
Lol. Only Stalin and the commies talked about deaths as being "statistically irrelevant". And this guy clearly didn't need surgery dueling COVID-19 and didn't have a member of his family pass away, unlike almost 0.3% of the 'murican population, but that's just "statistically irrelevant". Keep drinking the cool-aide mate.
New Zealand has had 65 Covid deaths in total while the US has had nearly 1 million. Things are clearly dire in New Zealand. But if the CDC advice means Americans don't visit - who's complaining?
By the time May rolls around you will be in the thousands. You have just started to experience Omicron deaths.
New Zealand has had 65 Covid deaths in total while the US has had nearly 1 million. Things are clearly dire in New Zealand. But if the CDC advice means Americans don't visit - who's complaining?
By the time May rolls around you will be in the thousands. You have just started to experience Omicron deaths.
NZ has been dangerous to visit for a long time. Not because you might catch Covid - all Americans have had access to the vaccine since last spring - but because you might get detained for weeks for having had Covid, or worse, for just having been in the same building as someone who had Covid.
NZ saved a lot of lives but only at the expense of trampling on people's civil liberties to the extreme. I understand that for some, their path was the right one. But to me, Patrick Henry's speech still rings true.
Last but not least, it's important to realize for a country with land borders, in order to achieve zero-Covid, we would have had to implement Chinese-style restrictions. NZ's approach, which was authoritarian but much more laid back than China, only worked because they are two islands of 4 million people. We would have needed the even more overbearing Chinese tactics.
NZ has been dangerous to visit for a long time. Not because you might catch Covid - all Americans have had access to the vaccine since last spring - but because you might get detained for weeks for having had Covid, or worse, for just having been in the same building as someone who had Covid.
NZ saved a lot of lives but only at the expense of trampling on people's civil liberties to the extreme. I understand that for some, their path was the right one. But to me, Patrick Henry's speech still rings true.
Last but not least, it's important to realize for a country with land borders, in order to achieve zero-Covid, we would have had to implement Chinese-style restrictions. NZ's approach, which was authoritarian but much more laid back than China, only worked because they are two islands of 4 million people. We would have needed the even more overbearing Chinese tactics.
This is why I never really understood why the Kiwis on this board (and in general) would point to their country like it’s some example the US could follow even if we wanted to.
Heck, even with the strict authoritarian Chinese lockdowns implemented by the Chinese government they are still experiencing a deadly COVID surge in Hong Kong and had to shutdown one of the largest cities in China (Tianjin) right before the Olympics due to COVID.
The US is about x100 bigger and about x100 more populated than NZ and is surrounded by countries also many times larger than NZ (Canada and Mexico, all of Central South America) all while being one of the busiest international hubs, if not the busiest, in the world.
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