And he ended up barely breaking 58, instead of 57. Refreshing to see a proper blow up instead of just "world record go brrrrrr" over and over again. Good and brave run though.
And he ended up barely breaking 58, instead of 57. Refreshing to see a proper blow up instead of just "world record go brrrrrr" over and over again. Good and brave run though.
I can’t imagine ever being so hateful towards a sport that I love over something as amazing as a slew of world records. Nike has really brainwashed you guys with this technology stuff. Everyone is Steve Magness now I guess. I consider Kona more and more every day…
And he ended up barely breaking 58, instead of 57. Refreshing to see a proper blow up instead of just "world record go brrrrrr" over and over again. Good and brave run though.
I can’t imagine ever being so hateful towards a sport that I love over something as amazing as a slew of world records. Nike has really brainwashed you guys with this technology stuff. Everyone is Steve Magness now I guess. I consider Kona more and more every day…
idk I think it's nice that people don't get WRs every time out. Reminds me of their humanity. It's cool to see someone confident enough to go out in a HM in sub 27, and still hold on even if they don't get the WR.
I'll agree that this was a stupendous performance from Kiplimo, even if he did miss his record by a good margin. He ran that record 57:31 almost entirely solo, so I thought he had a good chance at bettering it with the some pacing help - unfortunately, he didn't get much at RAK, and because of his blistering initial pace ended up alone almost the entire race.
I understand its a new era with shoes and a higher level of talent and whatnot, but I do think this performance, and Kiplimo in general, are getting less fanfare than they deserve. Kiplimo has now run under 58 on three occasions (and the only time he hasn't, came in a tactical world championship). On two of these occasions he ran sub58 *alone* , and not in the way that a record holder naturally must spend the last 5 or often 10 kilometers battling it out solo, but alone in the sense that from 5k on (I think slightly earlier in RAK and even earlier still in his 57:31) it was just Kiplimo and the road. Has there ever been a person who could routinely produce 10 miles of sub 4:25 pace *completely alone*?
Opening in 13:23 and 26:56 is an unthinkable level of strength; the raw capacity and ultimate ceiling of Kiplimo seems substantially higher than any other runner ever. Not to mention just a year or two ago he bettered the eventual 1500m olympic champion over 3000m.
I'll agree that this was a stupendous performance from Kiplimo, even if he did miss his record by a good margin. He ran that record 57:31 almost entirely solo, so I thought he had a good chance at bettering it with the some pacing help - unfortunately, he didn't get much at RAK, and because of his blistering initial pace ended up alone almost the entire race.
I understand its a new era with shoes and a higher level of talent and whatnot, but I do think this performance, and Kiplimo in general, are getting less fanfare than they deserve. Kiplimo has now run under 58 on three occasions (and the only time he hasn't, came in a tactical world championship). On two of these occasions he ran sub58 *alone* , and not in the way that a record holder naturally must spend the last 5 or often 10 kilometers battling it out solo, but alone in the sense that from 5k on (I think slightly earlier in RAK and even earlier still in his 57:31) it was just Kiplimo and the road. Has there ever been a person who could routinely produce 10 miles of sub 4:25 pace *completely alone*?
Opening in 13:23 and 26:56 is an unthinkable level of strength; the raw capacity and ultimate ceiling of Kiplimo seems substantially higher than any other runner ever. Not to mention just a year or two ago he bettered the eventual 1500m olympic champion over 3000m.
Good take.
Bear in mind that weather conditions in RAK were far from optimal for distance running. That also adds to his outstanding performance.
And he ended up barely breaking 58, instead of 57. Refreshing to see a proper blow up instead of just "world record go brrrrrr" over and over again. Good and brave run though.
I can’t imagine ever being so hateful towards a sport that I love over something as amazing as a slew of world records. Nike has really brainwashed you guys with this technology stuff. Everyone is Steve Magness now I guess. I consider Kona more and more every day…
i know people like to make the fuss over kiplimo beating ingebrigtsen in the 3000, and of course it is a good win. but not shocking in any way. look at that list of all timers and we are looking at almost all guys who were champion level in the 5000. Jakob was only a 13:02 at the time of this race.
hopefully we get to see this race again. I wouldn't put money in either direction.
Kiplimo is done? There is good chance Kiplimo has plateaued now and we wont see any more PBs from him going forward. Unless he moves to the marathon which he hasn't run.
Lol. A few weeks ago some clown said he is an average track runner -- apparently because he didn't medal in the Olympics, and in reaction to hurt feelings over the Norwegian -- and now this? How stupid can some of you be?
Kiplimo is done? There is good chance Kiplimo has plateaued now and we wont see any more PBs from him going forward. Unless he moves to the marathon which he hasn't run.
Ciplimo definitely will have to switch to marathon, because he's slowly but surely moving down to G-League in shorter distances.
i know people like to make the fuss over kiplimo beating ingebrigtsen in the 3000, and of course it is a good win. but not shocking in any way. look at that list of all timers and we are looking at almost all guys who were champion level in the 5000. Jakob was only a 13:02 at the time of this race.
hopefully we get to see this race again. I wouldn't put money in either direction.
There are quite a few problems with what youre saying.
First, while that 13:02 you cite was Ingebrigtsen's pb at the time, it was set 14 months prior to the 3000m showdown. If your point is that he did not yet have the strength of a 12:48 man, I find it disingenuous to say he was only good for 13:02 in 2020.
More significant is the fact that just a month prior to losing to Kiplimo, Ingebrigtsen ran a 3:28.6. This is .36 seconds off his current pb. I find it hard to believe that he, a strength based miler, improved his 5000m fitness by 15s in the same timeframe he saw a .36 improvement in his 1500m. I believe a lot of this 15s improvement had already been realized in 2020, but Ingebrigtsen just didn't run a good time trial.
So then, it wasnt a 13:02 Ingebrigtsen that lost to Kiplimo in 2020. If Ingebrigtsen ran 3:28 (worth 1264 pts) and 7:27 (worth 1258 pts) in 2020, surely that same Ingebrigtsen was a lot closer to his current 5000m pb of 12:48 (1252 pts) than you seem to think. I dont think it's at all farfetched to say Ingebrigtsen could have run well under 13 in 2020 if he had wanted to. Again, his 2020 season bests in the 1500 and 3000 certainly seem to suggest this.
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