I'm not sure if this is the case throughout all of Africa, but I just know specifically from Kenya, where Bernard Lagat and Robert Cheseret are brothers. Why are their last names different?
I'm not sure if this is the case throughout all of Africa, but I just know specifically from Kenya, where Bernard Lagat and Robert Cheseret are brothers. Why are their last names different?
I could be wrong on this but I'm pretty sure their name refers to where they were born. Anyone confirm this?
Yep. Depends on the tribe though. Usually last names depect the circumstances of your birth. Exceptions occur, such as Keino's sons. Keino seems to have adopted a Western way though (his kids went to US colleges). This is also why you can have two Kenyans with the same last name and not be related (the three Kipketers, the two Komens)
Alan
Yeah, that's pretty much it. In reality, they don't treat them as surnames like we do, more like two first names - and either is acceptable. In many cases, kids will take their dad's given name minus the "kip" prefix as their own real surname.
I.e, Bernard Lagat's dad is probably called "Bob" Kiplagat, Moses Tanui's did is probably "Joe" Kiptanui...
With girls, you might find that they just have totally unrelated names.
Kipkorir--born shortly before dawn
Kipkoech--born at dawn
Kimutai--born in mid-morning
Kibet--born at midday
Kiplagat (Kiplangat)--born at sunset
Kipkirui--born shortly after dark
Kipkemboi--born at night
Kipngetich--born when cows are taken to pasture after morning milking
Kiprotich--born when cattle are brought home for evening milking
Kipngeno--born when goats are waking up
Kiprono--born when sheep or goats are brought into the house in the evening
Kipkeino--born when sheep or goats are being milked (i.e. when cows milk is short)
Kiplimo--born among grazing cattle
Kipngeny--born when cattle are at a salt lick
Kipkosgei--born after a long labor, or a long interval between children
Kipchirchir--born in a hurry, after short labor
Kiptanui--fainted, failed to cry or breathe at birth
Kipketer--born on the verandah
Kipchoge--born near the grain storage bin
Kipsang--born outdoors
Kipkurgat--born by the door
Kibitok--born on the fathers side of the hut, not the mothers
Kiptoo--born when visitors are around
Kiptum--born during circumcision ceremonies
Kimaiyo--born when beer is being brewed or drunk
Komen--born when beer is being brewed or drunk
Kipruto--born away from home, on safari
Kipchumba--born near white men, i.e. in a hospital, in a town, on a white-owned farm
Kipkemei--born during a drought
Kiprugut--born during a famine
Kiptalam--born during an infestation of locusts
Kipsigei--born on his own (i.e. the mother had no help)
Cheruiyot (male only)--born when everyone was asleep
Kitur--born after parents had begun to despair of having a child
Kigen--a long-awaited son (usually born after several daughters)
Makes you wonder...
Komen--born when beer is being brewed or drunk (daddy was a drinker?)
Few name their children according to the circumstances under which they were born. You won't find many Kamba, Turkana, Pokot, Kikuyu, Kisii or Maasi with names like the ones on the list. The surnames of fathers, mothers, and maiden names of mothers or even grandparents are frequently used. John Ngugi Kamau's grandfather's last name was Kamau, yet John's brother James Kariuki Thironga had his last name taken from his mother. Throw in the fact that few use their "last" names when they come to the US (witness John Ngugi and James Kariuki above) and it can get confusing.
Kipyego
Kipkosgei
Kipkorir
Kipleting
Kimitei
Kibowen
Kipkuna
Kiprotich
Kimaru
Kibirgen
Kimnyolei
Chemesunde
Kimulwa
Kimetto
Kipbwambok
Kibichii
Chepkwony
Cheruiyot
and many more ...
Is all that for real? That was really interesting.
NikeXC wrote:
I'm not sure if this is the case throughout all of Africa
Also, in many Scandinavian countries, one's surname is traditionally based upon his/her father's/mother's given name. i.e. Magnus Olafson's dad's first name was Olaf.
Scotland did it similarly with Mc/Mac, I believe.
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