According to this study anyhow:
https://www.getkisi.com/work-life-balance-2021
Seems like Americans don't do very well balancing work and life compared to other countries.
According to this study anyhow:
https://www.getkisi.com/work-life-balance-2021
Seems like Americans don't do very well balancing work and life compared to other countries.
Thats because of the pay disparity and flatlining wages and massive military and corporate greed and refusal to build new homes under 500k and refusal to build and maintain good public transport and refusal to lower the cap university prices and the tax loopholes for corporations and the bailouts for corporations.
All things that LRC supports and hopes to continue in the future.
Slc has taken a nosedive over the last 4-5 years, exacerbated by the 80k people that moved in during Covid. It’s a weird place to begin with. It’s extremely whitewashed with very little diversity- excluding the Pacific Islanders. There is a small cache of Hispanics west of the city, coincidentally where the majority of the gang violence is, as well as a recent school shooting.
Literally the worst drivers on earth. That’s coming from someone that has lived in both italy and Spain. It’s kind of the “all rules apply to everyone except me” type of place and absolute ground zero for Karens.
As for running, it’s best to go early if you want to avoid the mountain bikes on the trails. Pioneer Park has a nice wood chip trail, but you’ve got to avoid the heroin addicts. There are quite a few tracks in the city for open use by the public, which is a huge plus. Good path (but asphalt) along the jordan river- don’t use if you’re female with the recent incidents.
As a brown guy, it’s actually kind of nice to stand out; but definitely not a place I’d want to live longterm. My contract is nearly up, thankfully.
I wanna speak to the manager wrote:
Slc has taken a nosedive over the last 4-5 years, exacerbated by the 80k people that moved in during Covid. It’s a weird place to begin with. It’s extremely whitewashed with very little diversity- excluding the Pacific Islanders. There is a small cache of Hispanics west of the city, coincidentally where the majority of the gang violence is, as well as a recent school shooting.
Literally the worst drivers on earth. That’s coming from someone that has lived in both italy and Spain. It’s kind of the “all rules apply to everyone except me” type of place and absolute ground zero for Karens.
As for running, it’s best to go early if you want to avoid the mountain bikes on the trails. Pioneer Park has a nice wood chip trail, but you’ve got to avoid the heroin addicts. There are quite a few tracks in the city for open use by the public, which is a huge plus. Good path (but asphalt) along the jordan river- don’t use if you’re female with the recent incidents.
As a brown guy, it’s actually kind of nice to stand out; but definitely not a place I’d want to live longterm. My contract is nearly up, thankfully.
Interesting take. I lived there for 25 years, still visit frequently. Agree its probably the least diverse state in the country. But that's changing rapidly. I know a lot of people that simply can't handle the religion thing there. It drives them nuts. I'm assuming you're one of them. Never noticed bad drivers...not at all actually.
I do find it odd that a place that has an enormous running community doesn't have more places to run.
runnER/DR wrote:
I wanna speak to the manager wrote:
Slc has taken a nosedive over the last 4-5 years, exacerbated by the 80k people that moved in during Covid. It’s a weird place to begin with. It’s extremely whitewashed with very little diversity- excluding the Pacific Islanders. There is a small cache of Hispanics west of the city, coincidentally where the majority of the gang violence is, as well as a recent school shooting.
Literally the worst drivers on earth. That’s coming from someone that has lived in both italy and Spain. It’s kind of the “all rules apply to everyone except me” type of place and absolute ground zero for Karens.
As for running, it’s best to go early if you want to avoid the mountain bikes on the trails. Pioneer Park has a nice wood chip trail, but you’ve got to avoid the heroin addicts. There are quite a few tracks in the city for open use by the public, which is a huge plus. Good path (but asphalt) along the jordan river- don’t use if you’re female with the recent incidents.
As a brown guy, it’s actually kind of nice to stand out; but definitely not a place I’d want to live longterm. My contract is nearly up, thankfully.
Interesting take. I lived there for 25 years, still visit frequently. Agree its probably the least diverse state in the country. But that's changing rapidly. I know a lot of people that simply can't handle the religion thing there. It drives them nuts. I'm assuming you're one of them. Never noticed bad drivers...not at all actually.
I do find it odd that a place that has an enormous running community doesn't have more places to run.
I wouldn’t say it drives me nuts at all. In fact, their beliefs here didnt even come to mind when I made my post- another man’s beliefs are not my business. I do find it really odd that people literally spend thousands of dollars to send their kids on these mormon missions, but are complete @ssholes to the person standing/living right next to them.
Regarding driving, maybe you’re just calloused? I see someone run a red light literally every morning on the way to work- typically more than one. It’s 3 miles to Hill Afb from my house.
That’s just one example. I won’t bore you with anything else.
Agreed on more places to run. Forgot to mention Jeremy Ranch and the rail trail. Those are good from June to September/October, usually. Depends how much snow in the spring or early snow in the fall.
Can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would want to live in Salt Lake City area.
I wanna speak to the manager wrote:
runnER/DR wrote:
Interesting take. I lived there for 25 years, still visit frequently. Agree its probably the least diverse state in the country. But that's changing rapidly. I know a lot of people that simply can't handle the religion thing there. It drives them nuts. I'm assuming you're one of them. Never noticed bad drivers...not at all actually.
I do find it odd that a place that has an enormous running community doesn't have more places to run.
I wouldn’t say it drives me nuts at all. In fact, their beliefs here didnt even come to mind when I made my post- another man’s beliefs are not my business. I do find it really odd that people literally spend thousands of dollars to send their kids on these mormon missions, but are complete @ssholes to the person standing/living right next to them.
Regarding driving, maybe you’re just calloused? I see someone run a red light literally every morning on the way to work- typically more than one. It’s 3 miles to Hill Afb from my house.
That’s just one example. I won’t bore you with anything else.
Agreed on more places to run. Forgot to mention Jeremy Ranch and the rail trail. Those are good from June to September/October, usually. Depends how much snow in the spring or early snow in the fall.
A common misperception of people moving to or visiting Salt Lake is that most people they meet are Mormon. I just looked it up and the percent of practicing Mormons in Salt Lake is down to 28%. I’ve heard several stories of someone complaining about some rude mormon in SL, only to learn the person they are mad at isn’t actually Mormon. Get away from SLC (and Moab and Park City) and the percent goes way up,
Utah drivers are well known for being aggressive, but at least they aren’t slow. If fast and aggressive is your definition of bad, well they are that.
One last observation, because of the mountains and lakes that pinch Salt Lake County and Utah County, congestion is expected to get horrible over the next few decades and multi-unit and high rise living should increase a great deal.
Drivers way better in Utah than So CA from my experience, they will let you merge in Utah rather than habing to go into combat. My neighbors have been great in Utah. We actually talk unlike So California where it was hard to get to know your neighbors. The housing market in Utah is extremely hot right now and lots of people moving in so some like it here!
It is interesting that even the US city with the best “work-life” balance is still behind London and Tokyo, which are the capital cities of two of the most “overworked” countries in the developed world.
And some of the worst inversions in the country. Winter is bad but recently seems like a sinkhole for west coast forest fire smoke in the summers. Schools are pretty mediocre considering demographic s. If you already aren't there you missed the housing bubble by at least six years.
Utah is a solid red state. That is big part of its success. Sure they have the stray Dem mayor in Salt Lake or Park City, but all the big things of importance are run by Republicans. It is no coincidence that the biggest failing states in America - New York, Illinois, California are overwhelmingly blue, while the fastest growing states - Florida and Texas - are overwhelmingly red. If this observation of reality bothers you, then you are the problem.
Hambrig wrote:
Can't imagine why anyone in their right mind would want to live in Salt Lake City area.
I bet it's because of the work-life balance. I hear it's the best in the USA.
yeah, but SLC has all the Mormons and that, my friend, is a straight up cult. You get the wrong guy in power over there....and it's gonna go off the deep end.
SLC also has lots of inversion.
Kobbs Hessler wrote: the fastest growing states - Florida and Texas - are overwhelmingly red.
This gap is shrinking extremely quickly thanks to NYers heading to Florida and California refugees heading to Texas. Texas is already close to flipping. Cruz beat Beto 50.9/48.3 in 2018.
Give it 5 years and both states will be a toss up. If they bring their liberal values that sank their prior states and run FL & TX into the ground, Utah and Idaho will be up as the next red bastions for the libs to ransack
Also has a good dating scene.
Aren’t there entire towns that are populated almost entirely by retired rich people? I’d think the work life balance would be better in such places than in SLC.
Luman Walters wrote:
yeah, but SLC has all the Mormons and that, my friend, is a straight up cult. You get the wrong guy in power over there....and it's gonna go off the deep end.
SLC also has lots of inversion.
You obviously know nothing about SLC. It's where everyone goes that doesn't fit the socially conservative religious mold. The last republican mayor in SLC was in 1974! You can live in Salt Lake and almost not notice you're in the deepest red state in the country.
So Zurich is very unaffordable, even more so than the most expensive US cities like San Fran and NYC.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
It is interesting that even the US city with the best “work-life” balance is still behind London and Tokyo, which are the capital cities of two of the most “overworked” countries in the developed world.
I was thinking the same thing. The vast majority of US cities are also ranked below Seoul, the capital of a country with possibly the worst work-life balance in the world. Most major US cities appear to rank around or below the likes of Bangkok & Hong Kong.
I wanna speak to the manager wrote:
Slc has taken a nosedive over the last 4-5 years, exacerbated by the 80k people that moved in during Covid. It’s a weird place to begin with. It’s extremely whitewashed with very little diversity- excluding the Pacific Islanders. There is a small cache of Hispanics west of the city, coincidentally where the majority of the gang violence is, as well as a recent school shooting.
Literally the worst drivers on earth. That’s coming from someone that has lived in both italy and Spain. It’s kind of the “all rules apply to everyone except me” type of place and absolute ground zero for Karens.
As for running, it’s best to go early if you want to avoid the mountain bikes on the trails. Pioneer Park has a nice wood chip trail, but you’ve got to avoid the heroin addicts. There are quite a few tracks in the city for open use by the public, which is a huge plus. Good path (but asphalt) along the jordan river- don’t use if you’re female with the recent incidents.
As a brown guy, it’s actually kind of nice to stand out; but definitely not a place I’d want to live longterm. My contract is nearly up, thankfully.
Lol dude have you ever lived in SLC? If Pioneer Park is your go-to running spot then you live in some uber sketchy areas. Ever tried Liberty Park or Sugarhouse Park? And if you live in the Aves or benches then you got some of the most stunning trails within a half mile of your house. And I ran a lot on the Jordan trail (even when it is dark) and never had an issue. You are wildly exaggerating the issues SLC has. Maybe don't live in West Valley city?
I absolutely LOVED my time in SLC and I'd move back in a heartbeat.