C. Engels: "I should have never ever lost to Yared... Hopefully, I can prove indoors that I’m still...the best miler in America"

Yeah, no. Hocker, Centro, and Nuguse are all better than Engels and quite frankly it isn't even close. His quote sounds like a huge cope.

Have another beer and keep talking, Craig.

LetsRun.com wrote:

"If I could redo that race (the 2020 US Olympic Trials 1500) 100 different times, I think I would be third 95 of those times. I should have never ever lost to Yared that day."

and

"Hopefully, I can prove indoors that I’m still the US champion and the best miler in America."

Did he forget the other two guys who beat him? Engels is not running as fast as Centrowitz has or Hocker will anytime soon.

Maybe if he learned how to race and get in a decent position instead of BOXING YOURSELF IN AT EVERY POSSIBLE OPPORTUNITY

greg kirby wrote:

Yeah, no. Hocker, Centro, and Nuguse are all better than Engels and quite frankly it isn't even close. His quote sounds like a huge cope.

It wasn't even close in the trials race, Nuguse easily pulled ahead of him in the last 100m.

Nuguse was just in better shape (he solo'd a 3:34!) and Hocker and Centro are obviously a class above.

Didn't Engels just lose an 800m race to another college kid? I'm not saying that he shouldn't put his OT race into a perspective that works to his advantage, but in the real world he's just another top contender that can be beaten. Yared ran a smarter race and 95/100 times he beats Engels in a 1500m.

After these comments, I lost what little remaining respect I had for Engels. His is a d*** of the highest order.

They were shoulder to shoulder with 100m to go and Nuguse put 3-4 meters on Engels and was pulling away even more. Nuguse had better form, Engels was breaking down.

This is a very disrespectful thing to say about Nuguse. It's also a flat out lie. I think even Teare would have beat Engels in that 1500m final.

aztec the moronic wrote:

This is a very disrespectful thing to say about Nuguse. It's also a flat out lie. I think even Teare would have beat Engels in that 1500m final.

aztec the moronic wrote:

After these comments, I lost what little remaining respect I had for Engels. His is a d*** of the highest order.

They were shoulder to shoulder with 100m to go and Nuguse put 3-4 meters on Engels and was pulling away even more. Nuguse had better form, Engels was breaking down.

This is a very disrespectful thing to say about Nuguse. It's also a flat out lie. I think even Teare would have beat Engels in that 1500m final.

I think teare would’ve made the team. People really sleep on his mile ability. He has the NCAA record, not Hocker. (Yes I know hocker has improved and is probably better now, but just for perspective)

I’m a huge Craig fan but like I said, Hocker, Nuguse and maybe even Teare are ahead of him. I like the Craig and Centro rivalry though.

Craig shines through his tactical ability. He’s not a speed or endurance oriented miler, he’s just a miler that usually has smart tactics. That’s why it’s always fun to watch him and centro go head to head. When his tactics fail however, he fails.

I find it hilarious him saying he didn't once think about OAC when they were naming UAC, and that he doesn't even know what "that group is called."

Amazed he has the ability to forget Beamish blowing his doors off at Pre after Engels started celebrating. Also Olli Hoare lol, 3 years younger and he's got a faster PB and made the Olympic final last year while Craig was floating on a river somewhere crushing PBR.

"Best Miler in America" - stay a clown kid

My gripe with the article was calling Brazier a speed-based 800m runner. This is false. A Rudisha, Amos or Korir is a speed-based 800m runner those guys can run 44. Brazier will run 46 this weekend and maybe 45 high at his peak outdoor season. Using IAAF scoring tables we see a 45 flat is equal to a 3:35 1500m. Brazier's 1500 is better than his 400m. Although he prefers the 600m, I think he would run about the same level in the 1000m. Brazier is not a 400/800 guy. He is a true 800m runner.

Neither Beamish nor Hoare are American. I mean, he’s also obviously not better than Hocker but strange you would use those as examples.

LetsRun.com wrote:

Joanthan Gault has written a great feature on the Union Athletics Club. We learn that Donavan Brazier had a great reason for not making the Olympics team, Craig Engels is rejuvenated and much more. Read it now as after 24 hours this feature will go behind our SC paywall.

https://www.letsrun.com/news/2022/01/donavan-brazier-is-back-so-is-craig-engels-and-about-that-name-a-look-at-the-union-athletics-club-ahead-of-millrose/

For track fans, the men's 1500/mile always moves the needle and we're sure these quotes from Craig Engels will move the needle as well.

"If I could redo that race (the 2020 US Olympic Trials 1500) 100 different times, I think I would be third 95 of those times. I should have never ever lost to Yared that day."

and

"Hopefully, I can prove indoors that I’m still the US champion and the best miler in America."

I'm a bit suspect of Craig's "Rebirth" saga, and he seems pretty confident (or cocky) as to his current fitness and ability. He leaves zero doubt as to what he is ready to do. He has a new agent, a re-energized relationship with Pete, and the club. I will say this, athletes like Craig are emotionally driven and need constant stimuli and change to be successful. When they find the right combination of coach, training partners, and training environment they can and will perform extremely well. I'm gonna give Craig the benefit of the doubt and believe he is going to run very well this weekend and the upcoming season. He clearly is a talented runner and given his "Refreshed" outlook on the sport I think he will at a minimum run PB's across the board.

To all the Nay-Sayers from last summer of Donovan Brazier...You're complete idiots! I was amazed at how so many people doubted his ability, mental stamina, and coach, and had written him off. I'm excited to see how fast this guy is going to run this year. New 800 AR? World Champs? New 1500 PB? A lot of Dumb-A^^ES will be eating some serious crow.

I look forward to reading all of the "Suck off" DB posts after this weekend.

aztec the moronic wrote:

This is a very disrespectful thing to say about Nuguse. It's also a flat out lie. I think even Teare would have beat Engels in that 1500m final.

Yes, very disrespectful for the former US 1500 champion to say such things about the 158th best xc runner in the NCAA and a passenger on the flight from South Bend to Tokyo.

You Kidding Me? wrote:

Have another beer and keep talking, Craig.

What if he has another National Championship win and keeps talking? Would you be happy with that?

Todd E Hotty wrote:

aztec the moronic wrote:

This is a very disrespectful thing to say about Nuguse. It's also a flat out lie. I think even Teare would have beat Engels in that 1500m final.

Yes, very disrespectful for the former US 1500 champion to say such things about the 158th best xc runner in the NCAA and a passenger on the flight from South Bend to Tokyo.

Thanks, Everett. Goofy statement.

NeedForSpeed wrote:

aztec the moronic wrote:

This is a very disrespectful thing to say about Nuguse. It's also a flat out lie. I think even Teare would have beat Engels in that 1500m final.

Engels believes it and could not be a top notch miler if he didn't

No need to say out loud, however

Lol stay mad Craig. You’ve been surpassed by the new guard.

Tools gonna tool.

What Julian and his athletes wanted, most of all, was a name that they themselves could come to define. That’s why catchy but corny nicknames like Pete’s Dragons or Phil’s Knights weren’t going to work. Too many prior associations.

What is the "prior association" for Pete's Dragons? This is not an acceptable excuse for choosing a terrible name.