“Nurses are actually paid very well, especially during the pandemic. Teachers are admittedly not paid very well but their job is much easier, safer and they get more off time than nurses, or basically any job for that matter.”
Quick correction, teachers are actually paid about 9% more than the average worker in America but get about x4 as much guaranteed vacation when you consider teachers get off all summer.
https://www.purefy.com/learn/what-is-the-average-teacher-salary
gina2002 wrote:
I also find it entertaining how many people outside the educational world are quick to jump and make assumptions about how lazy teachers are and how easy their jobs are and how they could do better.. but you do not see teachers doing the same for the business world??
Because the teachers get home at 3:45 and know everyone else gets home at 6. Because the teachers take 2 months off in the summer and know the workers can’t. They don’t complain about it because they don’t have anything to complain about.
its all exhausting wrote:
gina2002 wrote:
I also find it entertaining how many people outside the educational world are quick to jump and make assumptions about how lazy teachers are and how easy their jobs are and how they could do better.. but you do not see teachers doing the same for the business world??
Because the teachers get home at 3:45 and know everyone else gets home at 6. Because the teachers take 2 months off in the summer and know the workers can’t. They don’t complain about it because they don’t have anything to complain about.
Teachers also get paid more than most workers.
My brother in law and cousin both teach in CPS. One is currently quarantined with Covi19. Omicron is starting to clog up the Emergency rooms again, this time with much more kids.
I have not been to working from home since March 17, 2020 and I don't work in a crowed building and rooms with a bunch of kids who spread germs and viruses like nobody's business. Going back in the class room now is literally inviting the virus.
How about all of you folks who are working from home demand that you boss make you go to work in a building with hundreds or thousands of kids.
347893 wrote:
My brother in law and cousin both teach in CPS. One is currently quarantined with Covi19. Omicron is starting to clog up the Emergency rooms again, this time with much more kids.
I have not been to working from home since March 17, 2020 and I don't work in a crowed building and rooms with a bunch of kids who spread germs and viruses like nobody's business. Going back in the class room now is literally inviting the virus.
How about all of you folks who are working from home demand that you boss make you go to work in a building with hundreds or thousands of kids.
If teachers get vaccinated & boosted their chances of getting a serious case of COVID are around .004%. Honestly, teachers have to be the softest occupation in America- such wussies honestly. The most annoying part though is that many of these teachers demand to be paid their full salary despite refusing to actually go to work.
“How about all of you folks who are working from home demand that you boss make you go to work in a building with hundreds or thousands of kids.”
I don’t think going to my boss and demanding him to bring in hundreds of random children into our office will go very well- he would probably find it really weird.
However, I do work in an office with dozens upon dozens of adults who have children of their own at home.
energeticlotuseater wrote:
gina2002 wrote:
It is also worth noting that teachers, nurses, public service, etc are also some of the least paid, but still college educated required professions. Teachers are required to have a 4 year college degree, yet are barely making more than a retail worker.. but yet, everyone acts surprised that they are demanding more money or working conditions?? Same for nurses. Why wouldn't they want more money?? Why wouldn't they want to be paid at a cost equal to that of business professionals?
These people- nurses and teachers are the very people who care for our children and sick and devote their time to helping others for a fraction of what most people in the corporate or business world make.
I also find it entertaining how many people outside the educational world are quick to jump and make assumptions about how lazy teachers are and how easy their jobs are and how they could do better.. but you do not see teachers doing the same for the business world??
If you are not in a public school on a daily basis you need to shut up and sit down because you haven't a clue what goes on inside a classroom...
At least retail workers actually have to go into work. Retail also don’t get every weekend and summers off.
Nurses are actually paid very well, especially during the pandemic. Teachers are admittedly not paid very well but their job is much easier, safer and they get more off time than nurses, or basically any job for that matter.
The business world and it’s associates by and large makes its money through voluntary transactions with other adults. Teachers are artificially kept employed by the state, even when they refuse to come to work.
No, I’ll keep calling out people who demand to be paid but refuse to go into the office.
"Easier, safer, more time off." 1st two are downright whack! Third is true only for those who are not working at capacity. Try it! Report back if you survive.
jamese1045@hotmail.comwrote:
energeticlotuseater wrote:
At least retail workers actually have to go into work. Retail also don’t get every weekend and summers off.
Nurses are actually paid very well, especially during the pandemic. Teachers are admittedly not paid very well but their job is much easier, safer and they get more off time than nurses, or basically any job for that matter.
The business world and it’s associates by and large makes its money through voluntary transactions with other adults. Teachers are artificially kept employed by the state, even when they refuse to come to work.
No, I’ll keep calling out people who demand to be paid but refuse to go into the office.
"Easier, safer, more time off." 1st two are downright whack! Third is true only for those who are not working at capacity. Try it! Report back if you survive.
Again. I already have a job I have to go into the office and commute to- I don’t have time to do the job of teachers as well. Teachers act as if they are the only people who have to get their arse to work- the only difference is most people don’t have the option to just “stay home and get paid” on a whim as in Chicago. Most workers also don’t get entire summers off like teachers do either.
However, I’m willing to bet if teachers could find someone to do their work for them they would still want to be paid- especially in Chicago.
if you can read this, thank a teacher wrote:
Yawn^10 wrote:
You are such a clown. Not only are you trying to hide laziness behind some fake facade of laws you keep bringing up, but you also think wasting money on counseling and psychologists will help. You are the problem for these kids. Quit babying then and teach them to add.
You bring up the 14th amendment in another post which has zero relevance here.
The Equal Protection Clause of the 14th Amendment provides that a state may not “deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” It applies to public elementary and secondary schools, as they are considered to be state actors.
Such a clown.
Ok. So where does the 14th come in to play here? If anything the teachers are spitting on the amendment by not providing the education.
The blue states and cities wrecked an already hemorrhaging education system with their COVID lockdowns. The numbers in the big blue cities are shameful. People pay a lot of money for poor performance.
Here is the Illinois data post COVID:
joedlrt wrote:
The blue states and cities wrecked an already hemorrhaging education system with their COVID lockdowns. The numbers in the big blue cities are shameful. People pay a lot of money for poor performance.
Here is the Illinois data post COVID:
You’re right and I’m a teacher that has been against the covid shut down from day one. I currently teach the 4th grade and half the class has arrived with the inability to read. It’s because they spent years at home doing very little to nothing from this overreaction. Yet I’m still expected to teach them curriculum that assumes they can read. In reality, half of them need to go back to second grade before they have a chance. I feel like I’m expected to stick a square peg into a round hole. It’s a hot mess.
It’s not about Covid, then you say students won’t wear masks? Hmmm, by the way what the point of masks and quarantine unless it’s done by everyone all the time?
347893 wrote:
My brother in law and cousin both teach in CPS. One is currently quarantined with Covi19. Omicron is starting to clog up the Emergency rooms again, this time with much more kids.
I have not been to working from home since March 17, 2020 and I don't work in a crowed building and rooms with a bunch of kids who spread germs and viruses like nobody's business. Going back in the class room now is literally inviting the virus.
How about all of you folks who are working from home demand that you boss make you go to work in a building with hundreds or thousands of kids.
Quarantine now is nonsense. Most people quarantined at home go to the store the movies etc they don’t stay home they just stay away from school or work. It isn’t helpful at all.
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