The Nike invincible run is a terrible shoe

shoetester wrote:

I was just looking at the reviews, there are a lot of 5 star ratings and I am scratching my head as this was honestly the worst shoe I have ever run in. I expected a lot because it is all zoomx and it is expensive, but it is incredibly clunky, cumbersome, the response is spongy and muted and the heel collar has so much padding it rubbed my skin off. It is also very noisy. I thought the pegasus 37 was bad but at least the react foam was somewhat responsive and had a predictable feel.

I disagree, its the best shoe I've ever run in. I'd ask if you wore a size 10.5 so you could send me yours but I don't want it with your ankle skin all over it

The secret, or rather misconception, about zoomX is that making a shoe entirely out of it does not make it a great shoe. There's a reason why the Peg Turbos and Vaporflys are great. It's not the zoomX foam (alone). It's the combination of the materials.

The Turbos get their ride quality from the combination of react and zoomX foam layered on top of each othe. And the Vaporflys have another sandwich setup going for them. But the point is if you take away all that and dumb it down to hust zoomX foam then youre not gonna have a shoe as good. You might not even have a good shoe.

Disagree. I've done long runs in them, ran 5K road and track races in them (at 6 minute mile pace), and even did intervals at 5:00 - 5:30 mile pace in them. No problems so far.

The only issue you should have is when you're going faster than 70"/ lap pace. But that's what spikes and flats are for.

Why bother? Use the tempo next instead.

I do my tempos around 5:45 and I think I would have no ankle skin left after that much chafing.

I like the invincibles more than the tempos. both are great shoes.

Seems to be a very polarizing shoe. Good friend of mine raved about them. I returned them after one run because they gave me blisters around the ankle and the balls of my feet on just a single run.

nah wrote:

Disagree. I've done long runs in them, ran 5K road and track races in them (at 6 minute mile pace), and even did intervals at 5:00 - 5:30 mile pace in them. No problems so far.

The only issue you should have is when you're going faster than 70"/ lap pace. But that's what spikes and flats are for.

+1

It's my pick, best daily trainer of 2021. The zoomX feel lasts forever, still going strong after 600 miles.

I fall right in the middle: it's a decent shoe, but not the game changer I was led to believe it would be for an easy run shoe. It's no better than the NB 1080. I got mine at 40% discount so the price was OK but there's no way I'd pay full price for the Invincible.

I might try the Saucony Triumph next.

I respectfully disagree. It's an awesome trainer, the best one since the original Turbo. In fact, I might like it more because it has more cushion under the ball of foot and I don't get a burning sensation in that area after a long run. The toe box also fits my toes better, most shoes which are not ridiculously wide (i mean Altra wide) give me pinky blisters and/or tear over the outermost line of the toe after 200 miles. They are heavy but they have enough pop so that running moderate/steady/marathon pace feels comfortable and 'springy', more similar to using an older pair of Vaporflys than to trainers. Not so good for fasters stuff when you might want to increase leg turnover but that's fine since I use 3 pairs of these and run like 80% of my distance in them, might switch for something else for track workout when I need one. Also pretty good in cold weather: ZoomX doesn't lose its 'pop' and the traction of the outsole is pretty decent. Both significant advantages over my other 'Peg Turbo replacement' shoe, the NB Beacon.

It is not perfect since the upper is just too massive. Maybe making a slimmer one would have looked completely ridiculous on such huge soles. Which I doubt as they look like moon shoes anyway, especially the brighter colorways (dark blue is pretty slick). Or maybe that was necessary for the advertised reduced injury risk which is also doubtful as Infinity Run does the same with Flyknit which is lighter and not as bulky. Also, the price is outrageously high. The best I could find was 30% off which is still at or above as MSRP of most tregular trainers, and as for NB Beacons I can get 2 pairs and have some change left for a beer and a taco. Or 3 pairs if compared to full price of the Invincibles.

shoetester wrote:

I was just looking at the reviews, there are a lot of 5 star ratings and I am scratching my head as this was honestly the worst shoe I have ever run in.

How many miles have you ran in them? If few, then you might change opinium if you continue to use them and get used to their feeling.

Another giver of +1 wrote:

nah wrote:

Disagree. I've done long runs in them, ran 5K road and track races in them (at 6 minute mile pace), and even did intervals at 5:00 - 5:30 mile pace in them. No problems so far.

The only issue you should have is when you're going faster than 70"/ lap pace. But that's what spikes and flats are for.

+1

It's my pick, best daily trainer of 2021. The zoomX feel lasts forever, still going strong after 600 miles.

I like them too but more often I reach for the Hoka Bondi 7 and the New Balance More v.3.

I love them, but I hate the price. Was lucky enough to grab 2 pairs on sale, and I find jogging after a hard workout much easier in these shoes.

Hoping another company creates a similair but cheaper shoe lol

Not a fan of mine.....I occasionally go back to them, which I did a couple of days back in fact, but almost always end my run with "never again"!

I like the idea of them as a long/slow shoe, but my feet don't like them at all and I end up with plantar fasciitis if I go too far. Also agree that the shoe is waaay too built-up, which is exacerbated by the fact that I'm skinny with big feet!

I love them. Maybe not since the first time I put on 4% have I felt the sensation of this is something different. Not to compare the two at all. There is no question, compared to any other trainer that they are different and innovative. I appreciate that. They are fun to run in. I have decent miles on them as a mileage shoe, nothing real fast and they feel so protective for my legs as I'm dealing with niggles. I hate mushy, slow, slogging shoes and I don't get that feeling at all. I wouldn't compare them to anything else. I liked the turbos too but they are on completely ends of the spectrum for me.

I think it is the most fun trainer to run in but I will admit if I don't cycle them out and wear some other shoes every other day or so, the instability gets to my ankles and knees.

Overall the 1080 is probably the superior shoe, but the Invincible is SO MUCH faster and fun to run in.

shoetester wrote:

I was just looking at the reviews, there are a lot of 5 star ratings and I am scratching my head as this was honestly the worst shoe I have ever run in. I expected a lot because it is all zoomx and it is expensive, but it is incredibly clunky, cumbersome, the response is spongy and muted and the heel collar has so much padding it rubbed my skin off. It is also very noisy. I thought the pegasus 37 was bad but at least the react foam was somewhat responsive and had a predictable feel.

you can tell how many hobbyjogger types are on this board from their defense of this shoe. it's not a good shoe: it's heavy, overbuilt, and awkward. Nobody's running a 7-minute mile in this shoe. It's Nike's version of the Ultraboost. If you're not a clydesdale, this isn't the shoe for you.

My BMI is 19, and I love that shoe. I wore them last night while doing a 3x mile workout averaging 5:52, and they felt perfectly fine.

Only downside is the cost, but it's still worth it.

disagree with you wrote:

My BMI is 19, and I love that shoe. I wore them last night while doing a 3x mile workout averaging 5:52, and they felt perfectly fine.

Only downside is the cost, but it's still worth it.

Who does mile repeats in 11 oz shoes? Are you running tempos in Adrenalines? It's a maximum cushion shoe. I call BS that anyone is running sub-6 mile repeats in that shoe, just because you ought to know better and have shoes that fit the activity.

Clydesdale clogs wrote:

disagree with you wrote:

My BMI is 19, and I love that shoe. I wore them last night while doing a 3x mile workout averaging 5:52, and they felt perfectly fine.

Only downside is the cost, but it's still worth it.

Who does mile repeats in 11 oz shoes? Are you running tempos in Adrenalines? It's a maximum cushion shoe. I call BS that anyone is running sub-6 mile repeats in that shoe, just because you ought to know better and have shoes that fit the activity.

You don't have to believe me, but there are others who've run faster than sub 6 pace in those shoes:

On the last post, there's another guy who averaged 74.9" for a 10x400 session.