This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
The vaccines saved 1 million+ Americans. This doctor told 7000 low risk people to take some useless supplements and you guys are standing there slack jawed they didn’t get sicker. Advanced statistical innumeracy. Blind leading the blind.
I see you’re talking to yourself still. that fake vaccine has not saved a single life. it’s complete nonsense. Bats don’t live near Wuhan but scientists do.
It’s actually sad. A message board rando who somehow has proclaimed himself an expert on a subject nobody cares about anymore. He shouldn’t have any problem posting his resume with something better than an NIAID virologist and Harvard-trained MD then, right?
But we’ll get all kinds of obfuscating and pontificating about why that’s not only unnecessary but somehow compromising. Meanwhile, all these real, courageous MDs stick their necks out, and this jacka$ had the gall to condemn them.
Yep, Harambe’s propaganda quite literally killed people. Unappetizing for an arrogant nobody like himself who not only needs to be the smartest guy in the room but also needs to criminalize others. He’s the criminal.
I simply know more than him. It’s easy to tell. He is falling for the most basic clinical cognitive bias. Literally the reason there is an R in RCT. The dude has fancy degrees but never learned how to think. Classic. I have fancy degrees too but I can think. Game over.
People don’t want to think. They want to be told what to think. Some might even say antivaxxers are sheeple.
It’s actually sad. A message board rando who somehow has proclaimed himself an expert on a subject nobody cares about anymore. He shouldn’t have any problem posting his resume with something better than an NIAID virologist and Harvard-trained MD then, right?
But we’ll get all kinds of obfuscating and pontificating about why that’s not only unnecessary but somehow compromising. Meanwhile, all these real, courageous MDs stick their necks out, and this jacka$ had the gall to condemn them.
Yep, Harambe’s propaganda quite literally killed people. Unappetizing for an arrogant nobody like himself who not only needs to be the smartest guy in the room but also needs to criminalize others. He’s the criminal.
I simply know more than him. It’s easy to tell. He is falling for the most basic clinical cognitive bias. Literally the reason there is an R in RCT. The dude has fancy degrees but never learned how to think. Classic. I have fancy degrees too but I can think. Game over.
Then you’ll have no problem posting your CV here. Otherwise you’re just FOS and cowardly.
The vaccines saved 1 million+ Americans. This doctor told 7000 low risk people to take some useless supplements and you guys are standing there slack jawed they didn’t get sicker. Advanced statistical innumeracy. Blind leading the blind.
This doctor treated high risk patients and patients who other doctors refused to treat because of medical convention and authoritarianism. Blind leading the blind.
This was before vaccines when the sense of urgency was at its highest due to the novelty of the virus. God forbid we actually tried to help people. But, yes, also after vaccines became available but people didn’t want them. This was a compassionate doctor. You’re just a dispassionate nobody with a masters in statistics. BFD.
I simply know more than him. It’s easy to tell. He is falling for the most basic clinical cognitive bias. Literally the reason there is an R in RCT. The dude has fancy degrees but never learned how to think. Classic. I have fancy degrees too but I can think. Game over.
Then you’ll have no problem posting your CV here. Otherwise you’re just FOS and cowardly.
You are debating lunatics, let it go. these are people who would strap a child down and slam a needle into him/her, without a clue what’s in it, just to see what happens. they believe infected bats fly thousands of miles, through broken windows into science labs and bite people, creating viruses that the scientists had nothing to do with. just let them live on the lunatic fringe. we stopped them from getting too far along, so be happy. stay strong and they will die out.
Then you’ll have no problem posting your CV here. Otherwise you’re just FOS and cowardly.
You are debating lunatics, let it go. these are people who would strap a child down and slam a needle into him/her, without a clue what’s in it, just to see what happens. they believe infected bats fly thousands of miles, through broken windows into science labs and bite people, creating viruses that the scientists had nothing to do with. just let them live on the lunatic fringe. we stopped them from getting too far along, so be happy. stay strong and they will die out.
Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
You are debating lunatics, let it go. these are people who would strap a child down and slam a needle into him/her, without a clue what’s in it, just to see what happens. they believe infected bats fly thousands of miles, through broken windows into science labs and bite people, creating viruses that the scientists had nothing to do with. just let them live on the lunatic fringe. we stopped them from getting too far along, so be happy. stay strong and they will die out.
Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
Indeed. he reminds me of a prisoner who studies law and then claims to be a lawyer.
You are debating lunatics, let it go. these are people who would strap a child down and slam a needle into him/her, without a clue what’s in it, just to see what happens. they believe infected bats fly thousands of miles, through broken windows into science labs and bite people, creating viruses that the scientists had nothing to do with. just let them live on the lunatic fringe. we stopped them from getting too far along, so be happy. stay strong and they will die out.
Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
This is the key: the antivaxxers do not want to discuss data or evidence (requires an intellect)
They just want know who you are so they can ignore you (they are spoon fed all their beliefs)
Since I know you aren’t THAT stupid… Surely you have primary data (RCTs) supporting both this doctor’s protocol as well as whatever your stance on proximal origins is!
I posted the long form about the proximal origins debate knowing you all wouldn’t read it… and would just complain.
And look! You’re here complaining! Without giving any evidence or data. Wow!
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Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
Indeed. he reminds me of a prisoner who studies law and then claims to be a lawyer.
Remember when you posted
1) that this was the first vaccine to not confer sterilizing immunity (FALSE)
2) that febrile seizures were shockingly common from COVID vaccination (FALSE)
Hate to say it: you come across stupider than prisoners who study law or whatever. Ouch.
You are debating lunatics, let it go. these are people who would strap a child down and slam a needle into him/her, without a clue what’s in it, just to see what happens. they believe infected bats fly thousands of miles, through broken windows into science labs and bite people, creating viruses that the scientists had nothing to do with. just let them live on the lunatic fringe. we stopped them from getting too far along, so be happy. stay strong and they will die out.
Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
I could literally make up a CV and post it. It means nothing. I have the relevant credentials AND I don't fall victim to elementary clinical errors. The same cannot be said of your idol you've been spamming, who has apparently never taken an intro course on clinical trial design.
Average minds like yours search desperate for someone with the proper credential who espouses the point they want to believe, rather than think for themselves even a little bit. Tragic, but I can't say I expect much more from someone with your cognitive ability. Followers, not leaders.
Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
I could literally make up a CV and post it. It means nothing. I have the relevant credentials AND I don't fall victim to elementary clinical errors. The same cannot be said of your idol you've been spamming, who has apparently never taken an intro course on clinical trial design.
Average minds like yours search desperate for someone with the proper credential who espouses the point they want to believe, rather than think for themselves even a little bit. Tragic, but I can't say I expect much more from someone with your cognitive ability. Followers, not leaders.
Antivaxxers when someone points out their decision making relies on zero critical thinking: 😡😡😡
Oh I know. I also know this guy’s an industry lackey and a blowhard know-it-all. He can prove me wrong by posting his CV, but he’ll just blather on about “credentialism,” because he doesn’t have relevant ones to be making decisions for patients or for treating them or, even, to be discussing proximal origins.
I could literally make up a CV and post it. It means nothing. I have the relevant credentials AND I don't fall victim to elementary clinical errors. The same cannot be said of your idol you've been spamming, who has apparently never taken an intro course on clinical trial design.
Average minds like yours search desperate for someone with the proper credential who espouses the point they want to believe, rather than think for themselves even a little bit. Tragic, but I can't say I expect much more from someone with your cognitive ability. Followers, not leaders.
You mad bro? You should question why a doctor with credentials and great outside-the-box clinical success and judgement angers you so, particularly since this was pre-vaccine and this is a “vaccine” thread.
You should also question your anger with people like me who have natural immunity and have proven that for some people, natural immunity was the way to go and not to be condemned. Why is a pro-vaxxer like yourself so weighed down by medical maxims and angered by someone who has equivalent immunity?
We present a systematic review and pooled analysis of clinical studies to date that (1) specifically compare the protection of natural immunity in the COVID-recovered versus the efficacy of complete vaccination in the COVID-n...
I could literally make up a CV and post it. It means nothing. I have the relevant credentials AND I don't fall victim to elementary clinical errors. The same cannot be said of your idol you've been spamming, who has apparently never taken an intro course on clinical trial design.
Average minds like yours search desperate for someone with the proper credential who espouses the point they want to believe, rather than think for themselves even a little bit. Tragic, but I can't say I expect much more from someone with your cognitive ability. Followers, not leaders.
You mad bro? You should question why a doctor with credentials and great outside-the-box clinical success and judgement angers you so, particularly since this was pre-vaccine and this is a “vaccine” thread.
You should also question your anger with people like me who have natural immunity and have proven that for some people, natural immunity was the way to go and not to be condemned. Why is a pro-vaxxer like yourself so weighed down by medical maxims and angered by someone who has equivalent immunity?
I could literally make up a CV and post it. It means nothing. I have the relevant credentials AND I don't fall victim to elementary clinical errors. The same cannot be said of your idol you've been spamming, who has apparently never taken an intro course on clinical trial design.
Average minds like yours search desperate for someone with the proper credential who espouses the point they want to believe, rather than think for themselves even a little bit. Tragic, but I can't say I expect much more from someone with your cognitive ability. Followers, not leaders.
You mad bro? You should question why a doctor with credentials and great outside-the-box clinical success and judgement angers you so, particularly since this was pre-vaccine and this is a “vaccine” thread.
You should also question your anger with people like me who have natural immunity and have proven that for some people, natural immunity was the way to go and not to be condemned. Why is a pro-vaxxer like yourself so weighed down by medical maxims and angered by someone who has equivalent immunity?
The entire crux of the infection-driven immunity argument hinges on post-Omicron changes to immune responses. We are 2 years past Omicron now, this is not new.
I take it back, you should go back to simping for dudes online. This attempt to argue for yourself was not impressive.
You mad bro? You should question why a doctor with credentials and great outside-the-box clinical success and judgement angers you so, particularly since this was pre-vaccine and this is a “vaccine” thread.
You should also question your anger with people like me who have natural immunity and have proven that for some people, natural immunity was the way to go and not to be condemned. Why is a pro-vaxxer like yourself so weighed down by medical maxims and angered by someone who has equivalent immunity?
The entire crux of the infection-driven immunity argument hinges on post-Omicron changes to immune responses. We are 2 years past Omicron now, this is not new.
I take it back, you should go back to simping for dudes online. This attempt to argue for yourself was not impressive.
You mad bro? You should question why a doctor with credentials and great outside-the-box clinical success and judgement angers you so, particularly since this was pre-vaccine and this is a “vaccine” thread.
You should also question your anger with people like me who have natural immunity and have proven that for some people, natural immunity was the way to go and not to be condemned. Why is a pro-vaxxer like yourself so weighed down by medical maxims and angered by someone who has equivalent immunity?
The entire crux of the infection-driven immunity argument hinges on post-Omicron changes to immune responses. We are 2 years past Omicron now, this is not new.
I take it back, you should go back to simping for dudes online. This attempt to argue for yourself was not impressive.
Hence why I said “oldie but goodie.” Natural immunity is not a new concept or a bad one, if much maligned by people w BSs in biochemistry like yourself. So, the point to extrapolate here is if you had Delta, particularly, and were unvaccinated, you’re good. Why does that upset you so?🤬🤬🤬
I have a BA in kinesiology and a PhD in education. I know of where I speak.
Nobody can or has produced a RCT comparing infection-driven immunity alone to my five injections and three Covid infections. I can assure you my hybrid immunity is just freaking incredible.
You should all shut up until you can prove me wrong.
The entire crux of the infection-driven immunity argument hinges on post-Omicron changes to immune responses. We are 2 years past Omicron now, this is not new.
I take it back, you should go back to simping for dudes online. This attempt to argue for yourself was not impressive.
Hence why I said “oldie but goodie.” Natural immunity is not a new concept or a bad one, if much maligned by people w BSs in biochemistry like yourself. So, the point to extrapolate here is if you had Delta, particularly, and were unvaccinated, you’re good. Why does that upset you so?🤬🤬🤬
The entire crux of the infection-driven immunity argument hinges on post-Omicron changes to immune responses. We are 2 years past Omicron now, this is not new.
I take it back, you should go back to simping for dudes online. This attempt to argue for yourself was not impressive.
Hence why I said “oldie but goodie.” Natural immunity is not a new concept or a bad one, if much maligned by people w BSs in biochemistry like yourself. So, the point to extrapolate here is if you had Delta, particularly, and were unvaccinated, you’re good. Why does that upset you so?🤬🤬🤬
Look at this mentally ill Harambe/2600 bro guy posting under both handles, within 2-4 minutes? He has been doing it for years, sometimes forgetting to switch handles. He is mentally ill. There was a time when "they" were both gone for 2 weeks, and then "both" came back and posted within 2 minutes of "each other".
Harambe/2600 bro, man, seek help. Forget this COVID obsession of yours. Seriously, seek help.
Hence why I said “oldie but goodie.” Natural immunity is not a new concept or a bad one, if much maligned by people w BSs in biochemistry like yourself. So, the point to extrapolate here is if you had Delta, particularly, and were unvaccinated, you’re good. Why does that upset you so?🤬🤬🤬
Look at this mentally ill Harambe/2600 bro guy posting under both handles, within 2-4 minutes? He has been doing it for years, sometimes forgetting to switch handles. He is mentally ill. There was a time when "they" were both gone for 2 weeks, and then "both" came back and posted within 2 minutes of "each other".
Harambe/2600 bro, man, seek help. Forget this COVID obsession of yours. Seriously, seek help.
I have only ever posted as Harambe on this thread. I'm sorry its so upsetting that multiple people disagree with you. Keep reading the tea leaves and timestamps bro. Totally normal behavior.
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