For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
I will tell you what is not a secret O.P., Salazar was handed a 1:59.xx 17 female 800m runner and he messed up. In Salazar's mind, everyone is a potential 5000m to Marathon athlete. Think if someone were handed Bob Hayes or Carl Lewis and a coach messed the situation up. Stop crying for Salazar.
Agreed. "Sexual misconduct" without a sexual component. BS on stilts is what it is.
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
Completely agree
carmine9 wrote:
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
Completely agree
Yeah, I agree too. It all seems really harsh and unfair. A lifetime ban is the harshest punishment in sport, it should be for clear, undebatably obvious violations.
sleazy gonna sleaze
If there was any justice, this lifelong criminal would be in prison.
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
I completely agree with you too.
With all that Alberto has done for athletics, he deserves much better than this.
Attacking someone because they're a different ethnicity or nationality is disgusting.
75 still alive wrote:
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
I completely agree with you too.
With all that Alberto has done for athletics, he deserves much better than this.
With all that sleazy stole from athletics, he deserves to be in prison.
I'll tell what is not a secret ... wrote:
I will tell you what is not a secret O.P., Salazar was handed a 1:59.xx 17 female 800m runner and he messed up. In Salazar's mind, everyone is a potential 5000m to Marathon athlete. Think if someone were handed Bob Hayes or Carl Lewis and a coach messed the situation up. Stop crying for Salazar.
At the professional level, the coach-athlete relationship is a partnership. None of the decisions regarding Cain were unilateral. None of it happened without Cain deciding she was onboard with the plan. If a more distance based approach to Cain's training was a mistake, it was a mistake by both the coach and the athlete.
I'm not crying for Salazar, but let's also stop crying for Cain.
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
You are the same person who starts a new thread each day about how this “legend” is banned, got a raw deal, etc.
You know who “got a raw deal?” The clean athletes that competed against people this “legend” trained. And by trained, I mean got TUEs for, etc. Never thought anything would happen due to the Nike association. Wrong….. Good bye, cheater. Cheated as an athlete and as a coach.
Go think of tomorrow’s topic, simpleton…..
On the other hand, he got away easy with USADA because of their tardiness in combination with the strange WADA rule that multiple doping infractions count as one if one gets charged with them all at once.
Had USADA charged him in 2010 for possessing/trafficking testo (1st offense) and then in 2012 for using a forbidden method (2nd offense), he'd be banned for life completely now, not just for USOPC and USATF events.
That would also have shortened the Mo show, or maybe it wouldn't even have started. With a ban starting as early as 2010/2011, Salazar's coaching fame wouldn't amount to much.
75 still alive wrote:
Attacking someone because they're a different ethnicity or nationality is disgusting.
I don't care.
He is Cuban and he was to his athletes as or more vile than Castro was to his people.
I'm unswayed by your take on my rendering.
Yusef Scumm. wrote:
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
You are the same person who starts a new thread each day about how this “legend” is banned, got a raw deal, etc.
You know who “got a raw deal?” The clean athletes that competed against people this “legend” trained. And by trained, I mean got TUEs for, etc. Never thought anything would happen due to the Nike association. Wrong….. Good bye, cheater. Cheated as an athlete and as a coach.
Go think of tomorrow’s topic, simpleton…..
You do know that not one of his athletes were ever accused of being dirty.
They were all clean -- yet the coach was dirty.
Of what? Nobody has ever said.
I generally agree with the OP. This is weird and harsh for the governing to decide when the evidence is not being presented.
Another possibility is the Nike influence on usatf, WA, and the sport in general. Suppose Salazar did break the rules and Nike (and the governing bodies) knew or was complicit. Revealing the evidence would expose Nike and the sport in general. To “protect” the sport, nike, or whatever, they told Salazar that he’s guilty so get out of here quietly, then they gave the public a vague reasoning. It just seems weird. Lack of transparency. Seems like something or someone is being protected
more comfortable wrote:
For starters, Salazar was already serving a doping ban in which no actual doping violations were proven to have occurred.
Secondly, he is now banned for life by a secret process and the accusations are from anonymous plaintiffs.
Although I'm not a fan of some of his methodology, you certainly make a fair point. He should sue, assuming he has some semblance of innocence in all these accusations. There's a plethora of college coaches, particularly at the big football and basketball schools, who have gotten away with multiple violations and impropriety and still have a job to this day. In comparison, Salazar has been beaten like a rag doll with minimal proof or credibility and without any succinct and specific damning accusations.
Salazar case joins the long list of reasons why sexual assault allegations have credibility issues.
carmine9 wrote:
Yusef Scumm. wrote:
You are the same person who starts a new thread each day about how this “legend” is banned, got a raw deal, etc.
You know who “got a raw deal?” The clean athletes that competed against people this “legend” trained. And by trained, I mean got TUEs for, etc. Never thought anything would happen due to the Nike association. Wrong….. Good bye, cheater. Cheated as an athlete and as a coach.
Go think of tomorrow’s topic, simpleton…..
You do know that not one of his athletes were ever accused of being dirty.
They were all clean -- yet the coach was dirty.
Of what? Nobody has ever said.
What was he rubbing cream on his family members for? What was he sending Rupp in a cut out book? What about at least one of his athletes bio passport being flagged? There’s probably way more, too.
We’ll just start with the test cream. Why would one run test cream on a family member? Who does that?
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