Why isn't Jackson State in NCAA FCS playoffs? 🤔

Don’t know the whole details but something like winners of SWAC and MEAC agree to play in the Celebration Bowl instead of the playoffs.

Any other member of the HBCU conferences is welcome to go to the playoff if they get selected though.

They get much more $ from the celebration bowl than from an appearance in the FCS playoffs. The NCAA takes 80% of the revenue from the FCS games.

Didn’t they lose pretty bad today to a slightly better than .500 team? ND State may have been more than they could handle

Shoutout to Primetime Deion. Hope he doesn't sell out to sign with a bigger school. Time will tell.

what?????? wrote:

They get much more $ from the celebration bowl than from an appearance in the FCS playoffs. The NCAA takes 80% of the revenue from the FCS games.

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what?????? wrote:

They get much more $ from the celebration bowl than from an appearance in the FCS playoffs. The NCAA takes 80% of the revenue from the FCS games.

This is right & shouldn't be too hard to understand.

They are part of one of a few FCS conferences (like the IVY League) that doesn't participate in the playoffs. Their conference championship falls later in the season when the playoffs are already underway. They want to keep the focus on their championship + bowl game. A game on ABC will do far better than these FCS games that aren't really being watched.

South Carolina State also wasn't a bad team. They went 5-0 in conference & played a much tougher non-conference schedule where they racked up losses. Seems to have worked out well for them at the end of the year.

I hope Prime stays there for a while. Love that he flipped that cornerback. Nothing is preventing more kids from going to the HBCUs. There's enough talent that Jackson State could be better than any SEC school, that the HBCUs could become the best conference in all of college football. I love it -- threaten the $$$ these other schools are raking in.

It's hard to see Jackson State being able to come up consistently with the kind of NIL money Power 5 schools can. And it will be hard to sell most blue chip kids that playing in D1-AA is going to get you as much attention from NFL scouts as you'd get at 1-A, though Sanders obviously has a leg up on most of the division there.

Your so wrong it’s not even funny

HRE wrote:

It's hard to see Jackson State being able to come up consistently with the kind of NIL money Power 5 schools can. And it will be hard to sell most blue chip kids that playing in D1-AA is going to get you as much attention from NFL scouts as you'd get at 1-A, though Sanders obviously has a leg up on most of the division there.

Some how N.F.L. found Bob Hayes, Joe Gilliam, James Harris, Walter Payton and Jerry Rice decades ago. N.F.L. can find talent anywhere.

Of course you can find talent anywhere. My D2 school has put three guys into the NFL since I graduated. But when the player comes from a 1-AA or 2 school there are usually questions asked about how good they'd have been against tougher competition. Obviously some would have done very well. Also, it's not decades ago. The biggest names I can think of to come out of 1-AA semi recently have been Joe Flacco and Tony Romo, very good but not Walter Payton good. And again, it's hard to see HBUC schools coming up with the kind of NIL money Alabama, Georgia, etc. will on any consistent basis.

smark22 wrote:

Your so wrong it’s not even funny

And you do such a good job of explaining why.

HRE wrote:

Of course you can find talent anywhere. My D2 school has put three guys into the NFL since I graduated. But when the player comes from a 1-AA or 2 school there are usually questions asked about how good they'd have been against tougher competition. Obviously some would have done very well. Also, it's not decades ago. The biggest names I can think of to come out of 1-AA semi recently have been Joe Flacco and Tony Romo, very good but not Walter Payton good. And again, it's hard to see HBUC schools coming up with the kind of NIL money Alabama, Georgia, etc. will on any consistent basis.

The thing that the hbuc schools have going for them is that they can get basically anyone into the school (most have grad rates in the 20 and 30 percents and admissions in the 90 percents) so they can take a chance on kids that other fbs or fcs schools would not. Obviously Alabama and such can get most kids into school but they are not going to blue chip many athletes based on potential and hbuc schools can basically get as many kids as they want and hope some pan out (and some will definitely be great). That said they will not be taking many top prospects from p5 schools, especially in Fb, any time soon.

Top 10 HBCU/NFL Running Backs

1.Walter Payton Jackson State/Bears

2.Leroy Kelly Morgan State/Browns

3.Marion Motley South Carolina State/Brown

Those three in the Hall of Fame

4.JD Smith NCA&T/Niners...first HBCU 1000 yarder

5.Clem Daneils Prairie View....first Raider to have a 1000 yard season

6.Emerson Boozer Maryland Eastern Shore/Jets

7.Willie Galimore Florida A&M/Bears

8.Tank Younger Grambling/Rams

9.Willie Ellison Texas Southern/Rams

10.Mack "Truck" Lee Hill Southern U/Chiefs....a monster!

The cannot get as many kids in as they want. No one can now because the NCAA limits how many scholarships a school can give out. I think the 1-AA limit is something like 65. And I don't understand about "not going to blue chip many kids based on potential." But again, NIL money and best chance of going to the NFL is going to determine where most top prospects go now.

Kind of a weak argument by the OP as Jackson State got their asses totally kicked by South Carolina State, 31-10.

HRE wrote:

The cannot get as many kids in as they want. No one can now because the NCAA limits how many scholarships a school can give out. I think the 1-AA limit is something like 65. And I don't understand about "not going to blue chip many kids based on potential." But again, NIL money and best chance of going to the NFL is going to determine where most top prospects go now.

They are all limited to 65 scholarships, yes, but those schools (hbcu) also have very strong academic and need based aid and 1aa/fcs is an equivalency scholarship sport so they can effectively “full scholarship” over a 100 kids using athletic aid and other aid sources (FBS schools will actually have less “full scholarship” athletes on a team than a place like Jackson).

Blue chip potential means Alabama is not going to give a full ride and use a special admit on a kid with wack grades who “could be really good” they can find kids that are already “really good”.

So Walter Payton

HBCU WR's

1.Jerry Rice MVS/Niners

2.Charlie Joiner Grambling/Chargers

3.John Stallworth Alabama A&M/Steelers

4.Bob Hayes FAMU/Cowboys

Those guys in the Hall of Fame

5.Jimmy Smith Jackson State/Jags

6..Otis Taylor Prairie View/Chiefs

7.Harold Carmichael Southern U/Eagles

8.Donald Driver Alcorn/Packers

9.Harold Jackson Jackson State/Eagles

10.Sammy White Grambling/Vikings

8.

Korean food is good wrote:

So Walter Payton

Would ya believe he had an NFL playing brother?