If Jakob Ingebrigtsen attempted the quintuple at NCAAs (800-1500-3000s-5000-10000) how many events would he win?
The hypothetical schedule (based on 2021 schedule)
Wednesday evening: 10K
Friday evening:
5:11pm- 1500m
5:24pm- 3000s
6:14pm- 800m
6:55pm- 5000m
If he doesn't have to run the prelims, I saw that he wins 4 titles (10k, 1500, 800, 5000m). With prelims, I think he maybe wins 3 (10k, 1500m, 5000m)
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With no prelims, he wins all but the 800, but he probably loses that 800 pretty handily — I could see him near the back of the final.
Also I should say that there is a chance that he loses that 5000m if there is someone as good as Hocker or Teare in the field that is fresh.
The real question is could Jakob run 13:10 or whatever having run the 1500/3000sc/800 beforehand, with a 10,000 two days prior. I think the 10,000, 1500 and 3000sc are so comfortable for him, because he probably can run about a minute slower than potential PR in the 10,000, 5-6 seconds slower in the 1500 and 20-30s slower in the steeple, that the answer is probably, but a steeple takes a lot out of you from the water barrier even if you don’t run all that hard so someone like Teare might have a shot. But probably not, man.
Demolished in the 800.
An easy winner in all of the other events.
4 : 10k,1500 (easily) 3000st and 5000.
Can't see him winning the 800 with a 1:46 PR
Seppo Kaitenenn wrote:
Demolished in the 800.
An easy winner in all of the other events.
Demolished? Over what grounds. His 1:46 is 18 months old and you’d have to be out of your mind if you don’t think he can run 1:45 and threaten 1:44. And considering he could jog the 1500 and steeple he might have an outside shot
numbnuts wrote:
Seppo Kaitenenn wrote:
Demolished in the 800.
An easy winner in all of the other events.
Demolished? Over what grounds. His 1:46 is 18 months old and you’d have to be out of your mind if you don’t think he can run 1:45 and threaten 1:44. And considering he could jog the 1500 and steeple he might have an outside shot
Really doubt he could run 1:45/1:44 after two events, even if he only had to run 3:38 and 8:25 or something. I think he would run like 1:48 for 5th or something like that.
I just don't think he is durable enough, prelims or not...
He is used to one and done or ideal finals type races under 3000m. He could not do 4 races in that time span that covers that amount of volume.
Hocker was a bit of an outlier last year. Usually the NCAA champ is fighting for a national team spot, and they'll be top 6 for sure but still not might the squad. If they make it they're usually out in the semis at best.
That is worlds away from a 3:28 gold medalist WHO CONTINUES TO IMPROVE YEAR AFTER YEAR.
Freezing Deez Off in da North! wrote:
I just don't think he is durable enough, prelims or not...
He is used to one and done or ideal finals type races under 3000m. He could not do 4 races in that time span that covers that amount of volume.
Bruh what. Jakob races ALL the time. He seems to be the only elite pro who races at every opportunity. He frequently doubles and triples, like when he ran the 1500, 5k, and 3k steeple at the same champs.
Going off the 2021 races
10K- Pretty easy win (27:40) but not jogging by any stretch
1500- Tough win, probably pushes hard from 800 out with Hocker on him the whole way. Would take a lot out of him
3000s- 10 minutes after 1500 no shot he wins this one
800- Probably doesnt even win even if fresh, definitely not in his 4th race of the meet
5000- Not running 13:12 in his 4th race of the hour, mid pack
People are way overrating his chances here with that tight schedule. I say he wins the first 2 and then doesnt win anymore
In thinking about it, one elite runner per event should be invited just to ensure the college boys don't get complacent thinking they are good
Totally Fresh he still wont win the 800, He wins everything else *He ran 8:26 Steeple at age 15 or 16, he might be able to break 8 now, if he wanted to run it in 2022, He might even beat the NCAA Runners in a Marathon off of 1500/5000 Training, He is the REAL THING, Not a flash in the pan prospect who runs super fast and then disappears as many do.
He is consistently fast and has been several years in a row.
How much money do we need to raise to make this happen? Sounds like a great Interval Training for Jakob and he even gets some great footage out of that one instead of the usual 200m hills he does.
Freezing Deez Off in da North! wrote:
I just don't think he is durable enough, prelims or not...
He is used to one and done or ideal finals type races under 3000m. He could not do 4 races in that time span that covers that amount of volume.
you clearly don't know anything about jakob.
Aged 16 he ran the 800, 1500, steeple and 5000 at Norwegian championship and won it all except the 800 (finished 3rd).
He also ran a 1500/3000steeple/5000 triple at the euro u20, he unfortunately fell in the 1500m final , came back an hour later, easily won the 5000, and the next day he won the 3000st.
All these races with heats + final.
Jakob is clearly the runner who recovers the quickest in the world.
He once even ran the 400m at nationals
douglas burke wrote:
Totally Fresh he still wont win the 800, He wins everything else *He ran 8:26 Steeple at age 15 or 16, he might be able to break 8 now, if he wanted to run it in 2022, He might even beat the NCAA Runners in a Marathon off of 1500/5000 Training, He is the REAL THING, Not a flash in the pan prospect who runs super fast and then disappears as many do.
He is consistently fast and has been several years in a row.
totally agree, he would have no chance at the 800 even fresh, so he would not attempt it.
But he would easily win 1500/5000/10000/3000 steeple, even with prelims, and even if that means racing every two hours (he has already done that)
I think he wins 4 handily. I'm not convinced he wins the 800m even if it is the only event he runs.
Jakob vs. NCAA wrote:
If Jakob Ingebrigtsen attempted the quintuple at NCAAs (800-1500-3000s-5000-10000) how many events would he win?
The hypothetical schedule (based on 2021 schedule)
Wednesday evening: 10K
Friday evening:
5:11pm- 1500m
5:24pm- 3000s
6:14pm- 800m
6:55pm- 5000m
If he doesn't have to run the prelims, I saw that he wins 4 titles (10k, 1500, 800, 5000m). With prelims, I think he maybe wins 3 (10k, 1500m, 5000m)
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He's no Henry Rono and even Rono couldn't pull that off. After the 1500, he would struggle in the Steeple and then call it a night. The NP kids could do it though.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
He's no Henry Rono and even Rono couldn't pull that off..
He's not as strong in the longer events as Rono, but he's almost the talent that Rono was -- Rono was 26 when he broke all the WRs.
But the thing that would get Jakob through is that he is a stronger middle-distance (800/1500/3000) runner than Rono. He still wouldn't win the 800 but he would have a much easier time in the 1500 than Rono.
The dude that said Hocker would be right on him the whole way in the 1500 is insane. Hocker is nowhere near Jakob.
birdbeard wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
He's no Henry Rono and even Rono couldn't pull that off..
He's not as strong in the longer events as Rono, but he's almost the talent that Rono was -- Rono was 26 when he broke all the WRs.
But the thing that would get Jakob through is that he is a stronger middle-distance (800/1500/3000) runner than Rono. He still wouldn't win the 800 but he would have a much easier time in the 1500 than Rono.
The dude that said Hocker would be right on him the whole way in the 1500 is insane. Hocker is nowhere near Jakob.
The Steeple is a tough event and there is no way he's going to run more races after that on the same night. At 1978 championship, Rono ran a 13:22 in a heat but didn't run the final after winning the Steeple.